How to safely disable a dead cylinder that has blown rings?
So a while back i got some spark plug insulation in one of my cylinders, and I fried the rings, so the cylinder is basically dead, no comp, burns a ton of oil, and the idle doesn't change when plug wire is removed etc. I have a replacement jdm motor to put in i'm just not ready yet, and i only need the car for 5 miles a day and the occasional drive drive about 100 miles round trip. What i'm wondering is it is safe to drive with the fuel injector unplugged and spark plug wire disconnected from the distributor, or should i leave it connected? also should i leave the spark plug in, or remove it to reduce restriction, and since its pushing oil threw the rings is there a way to re-route the oil coming from the cylinder with some vacuum lines, so it doesn't make a mess, possibly routing it into the blow by hose with a T fitting? the whole reason i want to do this is so i dont clog the catalytic converter and risk spontaneous combustion.
I guess you could unplug the injector wire and the plug wire.
But it sounds like you have a screw loose with such ridiculous logic.
But it sounds like you have a screw loose with such ridiculous logic.
my logic seems pretty practical in the sense that i'm trying to preserve my catalytic converter, and prevent a fire. as said I'm replacing the motor but I don't have the time so i'm just trying to get by for now. And i was just curious if it would cause some kind of vacuum issue if i routed the oil from the cylinder into the blow by or somehow back into the crankcase obviously its unorthodox but its only a temp fix.
okay so forget routing the oil since apparently no ones ever heard of such obscure logic. my question is will i mess up timing by removing the wire from the distributor, and should I remove the spark plug and leave the boot on to cover the hole and prevent oil from spraying all over the engine bay. My logic is if i remove the plug it will reduce the restriction and I should be able squeeze as much power as possible from the 3 cylinders.
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You should try thinking outside the box you sound like some old man who thinks everything needs to be done a certain way because that's the way some old man taught you, so in your eyes it must be the best and only way to do things. Hey father time why don't you use your imagination and vast amount of knowledge to help me figure out how to modify an engine to run on 3 cylinders instead of busting my *****.
^ triggered...
Why are all of you in this generation like this? Someone makes a comment you dont like and you spout off, making all kinds of accusations that arent true and make no sense. Dude never said he was the best at anything, and is trying to imply that what you're asking here is pretty asinine. It may not be in the silver-lined spoon you're used to getting info with and he could have been more tactful but the message stands. Driving a car on 3 cylinders is bad, trying to route the oil from one cylinder makes no sense, and chances are anyone who would do this and have experience with 3 cylinder bombin is likely not competent enough to have a computer and be on here to help you. Pull the injector harness, pull the plug wire and hope for the best if that is as you say your only option. You wont get much better advice than that.
Also, try looking at who is speaking to you before you let them get under your skin. His avatar is some insane clown person, his tag says "Potato Club" and his location is Mcnoobsville. Were you expecting some shining light in the dark coming from this guys hand to show you the way with love and care? Do you young ones even have skin anymore? Forget thick skin, we wont even go there, just skin in general?
Why are all of you in this generation like this? Someone makes a comment you dont like and you spout off, making all kinds of accusations that arent true and make no sense. Dude never said he was the best at anything, and is trying to imply that what you're asking here is pretty asinine. It may not be in the silver-lined spoon you're used to getting info with and he could have been more tactful but the message stands. Driving a car on 3 cylinders is bad, trying to route the oil from one cylinder makes no sense, and chances are anyone who would do this and have experience with 3 cylinder bombin is likely not competent enough to have a computer and be on here to help you. Pull the injector harness, pull the plug wire and hope for the best if that is as you say your only option. You wont get much better advice than that.
Also, try looking at who is speaking to you before you let them get under your skin. His avatar is some insane clown person, his tag says "Potato Club" and his location is Mcnoobsville. Were you expecting some shining light in the dark coming from this guys hand to show you the way with love and care? Do you young ones even have skin anymore? Forget thick skin, we wont even go there, just skin in general?
Go ahead and run it on 3 cylinders
Because apparently all you wanted to hear was someone reaffirm your dumbass idea and not receive any actual help.
Because apparently all you wanted to hear was someone reaffirm your dumbass idea and not receive any actual help.
Okay, we've had our fun, let's just tell him the truth.
OP, it will only work if you balance it out. You have to shut down 2 cylinders or it will be off balance. So shut the bad one down, and another one that is an even number away from the bad one.
OP, it will only work if you balance it out. You have to shut down 2 cylinders or it will be off balance. So shut the bad one down, and another one that is an even number away from the bad one.
I'm not offended one bit, you're are talking about my generation look at you, are you any better putting me down for suggesting something that you wouldn't do to your personal car? as stated i have an identical jdm f22b motor to go in my accord, i'm not ready to install it yet because I don't know what parts need to be changed because my car is usdm, I made a mistake and didn't read into it before ordering the jdm i figured it would just be a simple r&r. so therefore I must preserve my current engine as long as possible before tackling the swap. why is it so hard to get a simple answer i'm trying to be proactive and not spew oil into the atmosphere and clog up my catalytic converter if at all possible, and you guys are acting like I'm so unworthy of advice for asking a question, I don't care if the motor blows a few months down the line, its already a loss but the car is in good shape and i don't wanna buy a new cat or start a fire, why is that retarded? and testify thanks for giving me an honest answer, but the car already has very little power can you explain the theory behind why i must balance it? will the unused oil just seep back into the crankcase or will pass threw the exhaust valves? that's all i want to know I'm just trying to expand my knowledge.
Oh and unknown, you're a hypocrite suggesting that i'm somehow triggered? and you spew a bunch of crap about young people and silver spoons because i was joking about him sounding like stubborn old man. and yes my skin is thick I do tree work outside in the sun all day not a climate controlled shop with 100k+ in snap-on tools, I use what I have available. And the only reason i posted this to honda tech instead of a generic auto repair forum is because i have an account already i didn't feel like making a separate account for one question, I figured someone would be able to come up with a Macgyver solution. without being super technical and by the books.
Oh and unknown, you're a hypocrite suggesting that i'm somehow triggered? and you spew a bunch of crap about young people and silver spoons because i was joking about him sounding like stubborn old man. and yes my skin is thick I do tree work outside in the sun all day not a climate controlled shop with 100k+ in snap-on tools, I use what I have available. And the only reason i posted this to honda tech instead of a generic auto repair forum is because i have an account already i didn't feel like making a separate account for one question, I figured someone would be able to come up with a Macgyver solution. without being super technical and by the books.
I'm going back to my climate controlled shop and 100k in tools now, kthxbye...
Oh and :triggered:
Oh and unknown, you're a hypocrite suggesting that i'm somehow triggered? and you spew a bunch of crap about young people and silver spoons because i was joking about him sounding like stubborn old man. and yes my skin is thick I do tree work outside in the sun all day not a climate controlled shop with 100k+ in snap-on tools, I use what I have available. And the only reason i posted this to honda tech instead of a generic auto repair forum is because i have an account already i didn't feel like making a separate account for one question, I figured someone would be able to come up with a Macgyver solution. without being super technical and by the books.
OK, here is your out-of-the-box answer: Purchase a compression test kit from your local auto parts store. Test the affected cylinder. If it makes NO compression, then evacuating the resident oil can be partially accomplished, although some will still be pumped out of the intake and exhaust valves allowing some oil to both enter the intake to be burned by other cylinders as well as into the exhaust system. Again, if it doesn't make any compression, unplug the fuel injector and remove the spark plug and spark plug wire from the cylinder head and distributor cap. Remove the schrader valve from the bottom of the hose in your compression test kit, screw the hose into the spark plug hole, stick the other end into an empty plastic bottle and duck tape the two together. Check the oil level in the bottle often and empty as necessary. If you are still concerned about damaging the cat. converter... take the car to an exhaust shop and have a "test pipe" installed in place of the cat for temporary use until you make your engine change... then you can re-install the cat. It is unlikely that your engine will make it for you to count on over the next three months, so I suggest you really make it a PRIORITY to exchange your bad engine for a good one.
Good Luck.
For the record... I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THE SUGGESTED SOLUTION POSED ABOVE, ONLY INDULGING YOU IN AN EXERCISE OF ALTERNATIVE THINKING. You should never rely on a critically wounded automobile as your primary form of transportation, and expecting it to survive for three months is asinine. The engine will not fail at a good time for you... an engine failure is always a "bad time" in life. My suggestion: Take control of your busy life, make the engine replacement a crucial priority and spend your long "Labor Day" holiday weekend swapping your engine !!!
Good Luck.
For the record... I AM NOT RECOMMENDING THE SUGGESTED SOLUTION POSED ABOVE, ONLY INDULGING YOU IN AN EXERCISE OF ALTERNATIVE THINKING. You should never rely on a critically wounded automobile as your primary form of transportation, and expecting it to survive for three months is asinine. The engine will not fail at a good time for you... an engine failure is always a "bad time" in life. My suggestion: Take control of your busy life, make the engine replacement a crucial priority and spend your long "Labor Day" holiday weekend swapping your engine !!!










