It is possible to install the distributor 180 degrees out of phase. Post a picture, or reference google images to ensure correct installation.

 

God I hope that's all it is. This whole thing has been a headache and a half. I'll give google a try. If anyone has a pic though I would greatly appreciate it.

 

Do the basics. Are the plug wires installed in the correct firing order on the distributor cap?

If so, check for spark at the plugs and listen for whether the fuel pump primes.

 

The part of the distributor that goes into the cam. circled in the pic. If I put that on back words would that put it out of time? Not on the cam wrong but on the dizzy

 

Then how come he's exactly 1/2 tooth off with the Y7 gear on the z6 cam?

And how come the write ups here on H-T only specify the Y8 gear needed on the Y8 head on the D15 blocks?

Z6 head, D15 block:
https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...oodbye-554053/

No mention of cam gear change.

Y8 head on D15 block:
https://honda-tech.com/hybrid-engine...iteup-2147115/

AEM adjustable cam gear used to correct the 4.75 degree variance in the cam keyways.

 

Yes if you put it into the cam wrong it will be 180 degrees out of time. And it is doable as others have done it accidently and proved it can be done.

By your post though, did you take your distributor apart?

 

yeah I did take it apart. I went out today and it fired right up. Must have flooded it. You're right thought those right ups don't say anything about the cam gear. There's alot of conflicting info out there which is very frustrating for someone who is trying to learn and do it for the first time. Nothing worked for me so I gave up on it. I'm going to try and sell the swap now. head, IM, dizzy housing, timing belt, water pump, brand new plug wires, and ecu. Hopefully I can get my money back. Oh and I think I found the problem. Fried the ecu. Thankfully I have another one. There's a b18b1 in a local yard for $250 I might look at. Has 220,000 miles though.

 

tom, you're mistaken. some of the guys on the first link im posting have been building d engines since the late 90's


Minime Cam Gear issue? - D-series.org

second, with more technical information

How to mechanically time a mini me swap/ other mini me info - D-series.org

 

I'm not saying I'm not mistaken. I'm just pointing out my findings for a very long time.

I was reading up on the mini me all over the place and for the longest time, the only setup that ALWAYS talked about the 4.75 degree "half a tooth" off was the Y8 head on the d15 blocks and so required a B7 gear on teh Y8 head, while all the Z6 right ups I read until about a year or so ago, never mentioned it and always stuck to the Z6 gear that came with the head without issue.

Couple that with actually dropping a B7 gear on a Y8 gear and seeing the keyways off by 4.75 degrees it causes a person to pause. So if it was the deck height, the natural half tooth index variance should have the gear teeth align perfectly but it doesn't..... Something doesn't add up.

Every write up always blamed the deck height variance for the half a tooth yet when you put the two cam gears aligning the UP and side marks, you see the camshaft is indexed differently by 4.75 degrees.

So, lets say the deck height does impact the Z6 head enough to throw it off by half a tooth.... Why is it, the fix for the Y8 camshaft is the same for the Z6 camshaft even though they are indexed 4.75 degrees apart? Is the camshaft sitting that much farther or closer between the two heads that it makes it a full tooth variance on the Y8 camshaft but the index takes it back down to half a tooth? And then wouldn't the fix be the B7 gear (which doesn't work)?

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Also, will the half a tooth variance of swapping stock gears actually put the up and side markers proper or will you be sitting closer to 11pm or 1pm with the up but the teeth align properly?

Actually, I can answer that myself... I just have to pull out both gears and put them on top of each other, put the Y8 up at 12pm and see where the B7 is then reverse the process.

Then we can supply the exact orientation people should see when they use the proper gear on their mini me. The mini me faqs on H-T doesn't make that very clear. At least the Y8 head write up points at an adjustable gear.

 

Q31 I think is the transistor that fries when you plug the wrong plug onto the IAT and the IACV or something of the like.

 

looking forward to the pics!

 

Someone post a picture of installing a dizzy 180 out of phase please. I'm sorry but there is no way it would go in.

 

Yep I definitely switched those plugs around. The dizzy will fit in wrong but you have to force it. Did that too

 

Good Lord, there's a tab on one side of the dizzy that prevents that very thing from happening. It should slide in fairly easily....did you hercules it in there?

 

It would if you force it to. It should go in real easy if its correct.

 

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...-work-3263202/
Your wish has been granted. The distributor teeth CAN be forced in 180 degrees out of time.