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Apr 22, 2016 | 05:47 PM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Reconnect everything.

Reset the ECU.

Does engine start and run? Is code 4 no longer thrown?

I reset the ecu and car will not start. Sounds like it wants too. Also no check engine light comes up.

Apr 22, 2016 | 06:51 PM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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I reset the ecu and car will not start. Sounds like it wants too. Also no check engine light comes up.

If you crank the engine for 30 seconds, does code 4 return?

Apr 22, 2016 | 07:35 PM

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If you crank the engine for 30 seconds, does code 4 return?

I cranked for 30 seconds and no check engine light turned on. Car would still not start.

Apr 22, 2016 | 07:37 PM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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I cranked for 30 seconds and no check engine light turned on.

That's a good outcome.

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Car would still not start.

Does the fuel pump prime?

Does CEL turn on and then off after 2 seconds when key is turned to ON(II)?

Apr 22, 2016 | 07:45 PM

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That's a good outcome.

Does the fuel pump prime?

Does CEL turn on and then off after 2 seconds when key is turned to ON(II)?

Yes the fuel pump primes.
And yes the check engine light turns on then off

Apr 22, 2016 | 07:48 PM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

Check for bright white spark at the plugs when you have time.

Apr 22, 2016 | 07:51 PM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Check for bright white spark at the plugs when you have time.

Okay I will do this tomorow. Thank you so much for all the help I will get back at you in the am.

Apr 23, 2016 | 07:56 AM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Check for bright white spark at the plugs when you have time.

Hello Ron all have weak red spark. cylinder 2 has an extra weak spark.

Apr 23, 2016 | 08:22 AM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

Remove the distributor cap. Measure voltage to body ground at the Blk/Yel wire connected to coil and ICM.

Also remove the coil, and bring it into your home to Ohm test it:

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...blems-2919450/

Apr 23, 2016 | 09:02 AM

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re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Black yellow had 0 volts

On the coil A and B 0 ohms
A and the secondary winding terminal had 16k ohms

Apr 23, 2016 | 10:30 AM

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Re: Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

Black yellow had 0 volts

On the coil A and B 0 ohms
A and the secondary winding terminal had 16k ohms[/QUOTE]

Should I go ahead and replace the coil? The primary winding A-B is out of spec

Apr 23, 2016 | 10:32 AM

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Black yellow had 0 volts

Doesn't make sense. Describe exactly how you did the voltage test.

Apr 23, 2016 | 10:42 AM

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Doesn't make sense. Describe exactly how you did the voltage test.

I put the negative lead on the battery and positive on black/yellow wire there were 0 volts. While coil is still In place .

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Apr 23, 2016 | 11:11 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

Post a picture of your multimeter, the meter setting, and how the leads were installed.

What was the voltage reading across the two battery posts?

Apr 23, 2016 | 11:15 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Post a picture of your multimeter, the meter setting, and how the leads were installed.

What was the voltage reading across the two battery posts?

The voltage across battery posts was 12.46 volts

Apr 23, 2016 | 11:19 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

Test whether dash fuse 9 is blown:

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...fuses-3079359/

Apr 23, 2016 | 11:20 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Post a picture of your multimeter, the meter setting, and how the leads were installed.

What was the voltage reading across the two battery posts?

The negative lead was connected to the battery ground.

Apr 23, 2016 | 11:24 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Test whether dash fuse 9 is blown:

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...fuses-3079359/

Fuse 9 is not blown

Apr 23, 2016 | 11:33 AM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Test whether dash fuse 9 is blown:

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...fuses-3079359/

Sorry I did the test with the key of.
With the key on the black/yellow has 12.10 volts (battery is kinda low)

Apr 23, 2016 | 12:26 PM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Sorry I did the test with the key of.
With the key on the black/yellow has 12.10 volts (battery is kinda low)

Redo the coil Ohm test. If it reproducibly reads 0 Ohms on the primary winding, then replace the coil.

If the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor are also old, replace them as well.

Apr 23, 2016 | 12:31 PM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Redo the coil Ohm test. If it reproducibly reads 0 Ohms on the primary winding, then replace the coil.

If the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor are also old, replace them as well.

Okay I will remove and test coil inside home. Then If test bad replace coil.

Apr 23, 2016 | 12:32 PM

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Okay I will remove and test coil inside home. Then If test bad replace coil.

Apr 23, 2016 | 12:33 PM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Redo the coil Ohm test. If it reproducibly reads 0 Ohms on the primary winding, then replace the coil.

If the plugs, wires, cap, and rotor are also old, replace them as well.

Also should there be voltage on both black/yellow and white wire on coil? Mine reads 12 volts on both wires .

Apr 23, 2016 | 12:42 PM

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Also should there be voltage on both black/yellow and white wire on coil? Mine reads 12 volts on both wires .

Service manual:

Apr 23, 2016 | 01:00 PM

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Re: 98 civic - Fuse #44 blows when key is turned to on

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Okay there's only 12v on both wires with the coil installed. I removed and tested the coil and still reads at 0hms. I'm going to autozone to replace . Should i try to start it after replacing?

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