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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 08:23 PM
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Default 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

Been trying to remove the power steering rack and cannot get it out, it physically will not get low enough and far enough to passenger side to lower it right out.

I have even removed the shift linkage because I will be installing a new shifter and bushings etc, also removed the stabilizer. Exhaust has been disconnected also so what else can I do? Can the pinion/valve housing be removed while under the car or do I have to remove the driver side inner tie rod?

The pinion is catching by about 1/2" as per photo, inner tie rod is also touching metal and passenger side of rack is restricted so what to do?
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Old Mar 19, 2016 | 10:21 PM
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 04:04 AM
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Tie rods need to be removed then it will come out.

IMO, it's easier to drop the whole subframe then take the rack out, YMMV.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 05:42 AM
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:49 AM
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Default Re: 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

Guys, thanks for the replies, appreciate it. According to the Steering Gearbox Removal instructions the rack should drop down with the inner tie rods still attached however that's not the case for me.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Jason B.
Tie rods need to be removed then it will come out.

IMO, it's easier to drop the whole subframe then take the rack out, YMMV.
Do you mean inner tie rods? I'll need to take another look in the morning. Was hoping to avoid removing anything like the subframe.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 08:56 AM
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Maybe seeing it will helP;






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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:01 AM
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I removed my manual rack and installed a power one whiteout dropping the subframe. It was tight but it came out the side. Are you converting to non PS?
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:08 AM
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I just replaced my pinion this weekend. Take vice grips and turn the part that connect to the steering wheel and it will pull the side in giving you room. Or you can remove the inner tie rod. You absolutely do not need to remove the subframe.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:01 PM
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I removed my manual rack and installed a power one whiteout dropping the subframe. It was tight but it came out the side. Are you converting to non PS?
I have a leak in the upper seal/pinion area, will have another go later today.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:08 PM
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Default Re: 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

Originally Posted by eHMxhACk
Maybe seeing it will helP;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3d2ta61tvA

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Thanks, i have watched this and Eric the Car Guy vids, probably another couple, i guess it's just really tight, hopefully get it out later today.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Fnix
I just replaced my pinion this weekend. Take vice grips and turn the part that connect to the steering wheel and it will pull the side in giving you room. Or you can remove the inner tie rod. You absolutely do not need to remove the subframe.
Ok will try that, although looks like inner tie rod needs to come out, thanks.
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Old Mar 20, 2016 | 09:41 PM
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Shouldn't have to remove your inner tie rods to pull out a rack, you just need to pull down, clock it in a direction where you can move the passenger side down and the the driver side. Reverse order for re-installation,
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 06:20 AM
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Shouldn't have to remove your inner tie rods to pull out a rack, you just need to pull down, clock it in a direction where you can move the passenger side down and the the driver side. Reverse order for re-installation,


As described in the service manual instructions.
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 08:11 AM
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Yeah its been a while...but that is what I remember. I kinda skimmed through your pics.
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Originally Posted by eHMxhACk
Maybe seeing it will helP;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3d2ta61tvA





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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 09:15 AM
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Default Re: 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

Originally Posted by tony_2018
Shouldn't have to remove your inner tie rods to pull out a rack, you just need to pull down, clock it in a direction where you can move the passenger side down and the the driver side. Reverse order for re-installation,
Got the rack off earlier today, had to remove the driver side inner tie rod which was easy enough.
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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 09:20 AM
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Originally Posted by DeFinitive
had to remove the driver side inner tie rod
Should not be necessary for stock Civic.

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Old Mar 21, 2016 | 10:23 AM
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Default Re: 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

It does make the removal easier but just make sure you completely tighten the inner tie rod. Just never had an issue doing a removal....
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 05:21 PM
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Default Re: 2000 civic SiR Power Steering rack removal

Originally Posted by RonJ
Should not be necessary for stock Civic.
Ron, I can assure you there was no option but to remove it, it was physically impossible to get it out otherwise.

Maybe the sub frame is not stock. The previous owner should know.

I'm also curious to know why it didn't come out with the inner tie rod still in place.
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Old Mar 22, 2016 | 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by tony_2018
It does make the removal easier but just make sure you completely tighten the inner tie rod. Just never had an issue doing a removal....
Yes it was very easy to remove after that. Ok cheers, will make sure it's tight.
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