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Old Sep 20, 2013 | 07:52 PM
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I have the front of my car set the lowest I can go without rubbing the slicks or the traction bar tripping the staging lights when I have very low pressure in the slicks.

When I set the rear, I've run into two separate schools of thought. One side says to set the rear as low as you can to avoid squatting because it can't squat if it's already all the way down, plus it's got less drag down low. The other side of the argument is to set it up higher to transfer weight to the front for more traction. Right now the rear of the car is probably 2-3" lower than the back on Skunk2 Drag coilovers all around.

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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 05:05 AM
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I would like some opinions as well... I am experimenting with this currently to see what works and what doesn't.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 05:54 AM
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the squat to avoid squatting idea makes it worse because then you are just shocking the rear. I have my rear height specifically set to reach my goal weight % on the front after setting the front at minimum possible ride height for beam and slick clearance.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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How do you determine your goal weight percentage? I dont want to just keep cranking it up because the weight kept going forward. There must be some compromise.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 12:51 PM
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most people don't go over 70/30 unless its all motor not going 150+easily
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 12:55 PM
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There was a thread about corner balancing a while back and everyone seemed to agree as close to 70/30 ratio as you can get is what has worked for most others.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 02:33 PM
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Why would going more than 70/30 be detrimental? If it were possible to go 90/10, why shouldn't one do that? I'm not trying to, just playing devil's advocate here.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 04:25 PM
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Why would going more than 70/30 be detrimental? If it were possible to go 90/10, why shouldn't one do that? I'm not trying to, just playing devil's advocate here.
ask Jeff Evans. (you tube)

You could lift the rear tires from braking and the rear end will beat you to the turn off. Also if you need a chute....have a 90/10 would DEF cause the rear to lift up if you throw it. Im sure are ways to help this but its better to be safe and well rounded.
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Old Sep 21, 2013 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by SPOOLINmatt
ask Jeff Evans. (you tube)

You could lift the rear tires from braking and the rear end will beat you to the turn off. Also if you need a chute....have a 90/10 would DEF cause the rear to lift up if you throw it. Im sure are ways to help this but its better to be safe and well rounded.
Just saw a video of a black integra smacking the wall. Ouch. I'll be happy with 10.9, not 8.9. But yeah, I see your point, lol.
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 12:53 PM
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Anyone know of cheap scales to use for this? Just curious if there's a backyard way of doing it? Without buying an all out racecar 4 corner scale setup?
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Old Sep 22, 2013 | 04:59 PM
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If you can find 4 cheap 600+ pound heavy duty scales u could just set each wheel on a scale and get the same results... You would just have to do the math yourself to figure up the percentages...
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Old Sep 24, 2013 | 06:13 AM
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http://forums.pelicanparts.com/porsc...er-scales.html

Here is the cheep low down corner scale setup LOL
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Old Sep 25, 2013 | 12:56 PM
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I stumbled on an old thread that was a good read on this subject.... It changed the way I thought about this topic.

https://honda-tech.com/forums/drag-racing-36/any-benifit-raising-rear-suspension-up-keepin-front-low-drag-2244782/
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 07:50 AM
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Makes me want to lower it back down now.
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Old Sep 26, 2013 | 08:10 AM
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Mines not high or low. Like 3 fingers max on one of the sides.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 06:13 PM
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Bringing it back.

Digital Scales AZ has 700 lb capacity bariatric scales (made for fatass 'Murcans who can't fit a regular scale, God bless the Whopper) for $65.

http://www.digitalscalesaz.com/XL-70...Scale-My-Weigh

Add in the coupon code "tweet" and you come to a total of $269 shipped.

I took the plunge and will report back how they do if I ever get my car off of jackstands and back to the shop.
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 06:19 PM
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BTW: 70% of 2000lbs is 1400. So if your car weighs exactly 2000 with driver, these scales will barely be enough to get an accurate reading of 70/30 weight distribution.

(Unless I'm calculating this wrong.)

So what I would want to see is

Total: 2000

35% 700 | 35% 700
15% 300 | 15% 300
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Old Jun 27, 2014 | 08:06 PM
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Just wrote a whole response and then my phone glitched. My car is 65/35 and both front are even with me in the car. With stock fenders and enough gap for slicks rear are low enough but the car has slight rake toward the front when slicks are aired down.
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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 11:18 AM
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do you corner ballance then do an alignment, or vice versa? i feel like they would throw each other off in a never ending circle.
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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 11:28 AM
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Corner balance then alignment and you can check balance after but I personally would make adjustments because it will throw alignment off to some degree depending what you change.
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Old Jun 28, 2014 | 02:43 PM
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Just had this done today with my 00 Civic hatch. 67% front, 33% rear and total weight with me in it 2072lbs.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by hub_n_hun
Just had this done today with my 00 Civic hatch. 67% front, 33% rear and total weight with me in it 2072lbs.
Lol. How much do you weigh? I presume this is a NA car?
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 06:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Blown90hatcH
Lol. How much do you weigh? I presume this is a NA car?
I'm hoping to be around that weight too. I don't have a class to run in, just a fun car.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 04:02 PM
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The car is NA and the weight without me in it is 1817lbs, you do the math lol. I know, I know, I need to diet lol.
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Old Jun 29, 2014 | 11:06 PM
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So I've been through this same kinda thing before and I will tell you that a go pro on the side of your car can help wonders. Also you want to play with ride hight. When you launch you want your camber as close to 0° so you have 100% or as close to that as possible for max tire contact. Go to test and tunes and play with it.
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