Hey Guys, I did a search and there's not too many threads on brake pads for the ITR. I need to buy a set for the front and not sure which way to go. The pads will be paired up with Brembo blank rotors.

I'm kind of leaning toward Hawk HPS, but any opinions would be great. Pads will only be for aggressive street driving, maybe 1 or 2 track days. I need something with low dust and no squealing, yet has a good initial bite.

Thanks

 

When I did my brakes last, I went with autozone blanks and HPS pads. I've been very happy with them so far. I autocross on the weekends and DD my car. They have pretty good bite when autocrossing, but nothing over the top. From what I understand they fade fairly quickly if you are thinking about track days, but I haven't tracked with the pads so I don't have any first hand knowledge of this. They aren't a very aggressive pad though, I'm probably going to upgrade to something a little more aggressive like HP+ before the expo this summer.

edit; forgot to add, this is on a gsr, not an itr... but i thought i'd leave my input on pads.

 

For low dust, no squealing, and good bite, I recommend the stock pads. Their performance is better than the HPS, and they're cheaper, too. (The HPS is around $77 for a set of front pads, and stock front pads, part number 45022-ST7-R02, is $41.38 at Delray.)

If you take out the low dust criterion, then I recommend the Hawk HP+ (HP Plus) rather than the stock pads. They both perform well, but the HP+ will last a bit longer on the track and have a bit better bite. But they dust quite a bit, and they're more expensive ($95).

 

I have HPS's on my car, paired with Powerslot rotors in the front and OEM blanks in the rear. The HPS's do dust worse than OEM pads, but that's also partly attributed to the slotted rotors, IMO. To put it in perspective, I had cheapo autozone pads and OEM rotors in the rear, and the HPS/Powerslot combo dusted probably half as bad as the cheapo pads did. The stopping is also pretty damn good for a street use pad. I haven't tracked on them, but they hold up just fine to aggressive mountain and backroad driving. Highly recommended.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AltimaXX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have HPS's on my car, paired with Powerslot rotors in the front and OEM blanks in the rear. The HPS's do dust worse than OEM pads, but that's also partly attributed to the slotted rotors, IMO. To put it in perspective, I had cheapo autozone pads and OEM rotors in the rear, and the HPS/Powerslot combo dusted probably half as bad as the cheapo pads did. The stopping is also pretty damn good for a street use pad. I haven't tracked on them, but they hold up just fine to aggressive mountain and backroad driving. Highly recommended.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, but OEM Acura ITR pads are made from a different compound so your comparrison doesn't really help

 

autozone blanks and cobalt GT Sports.....just get some wheel cleaner and your golden

 

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Yes, but OEM Acura ITR pads are made from a different compound so your comparrison doesn't really help</TD></TR></TABLE>
I just wanted to mention that the HPS's do perform well without dusting terribly...I do know that the ITR pads are different, so I guess it's not a comparison...just a commentary.

 

I don't have a Type R but on my EP3 I have powerslot rotors with HPS pads and braided lines. VERY GOOD BITE! Once they get a little warm I find myself staring at the pavement.

I have a couple of friends that use them on EG autocross cars and stuff too. Good setup. I like it a lot compared to stock.

I am also running stock brakes on the back in case anyone is wondering.


So far the dust isn't noticably different than stock and they make no noise.

 

do no recommend HPS at all, they are fine (stockish) in general, but in cold rainy weather extremely dangerous.
what happens is that you effectively have no brakes for 1-2 seconds, especiially hwy driving.

HP+ on the other hand are great.

 

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Thats what sold me. Especially if your running white wheels. http://www.thmotorsports.com/ for awesome prices.

 

Thanks for all the input guys.
I'm going to pick up some HPS pads and give them a try. I'll let everyone know how they go.

 

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Guess it doesn't matter that this guy is saying it's a dangerous pad? OH BUT COOL AWESOME PRICES YEAH!!!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jdm_teg_gs &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for all the input guys.
I'm going to pick up some HPS pads and give them a try. I'll let everyone know how they go.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't get it, everyone is saying it's like a stock pad, Ken even said it's not even as good as pad as stock, and someone said they're bad in cold and wet weather, not only bad, but dangerous. Then you say... "I'm going to pick up some HPS pads"... please explain.

 

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Thats what sold me. Especially if your running white wheels. http://www.thmotorsports.com/ for awesome prices.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats not an awesome price

trust me

 

88Rotors has good prices for the hawk pads.

 

AltimaXX and square_1 both said they are decent pads.

JjuuN R: What pads do you use?

 

Carbotech, dude.

Dan/ Carbotech will have a compound for your ITR needs. Carbotech engineers their own compounds not just repackage someone else pads.

Carbotech isn't going to be the cheapest pad, but why cut corners when it's time to stop. I will never understand buying cheap brake pads.

End of story.

http://www.ctbrakes.com

 

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The guy doesn't need rotors.

As for the pads, the problem with Cobalt GT Sports is the new formulation. Remember, Cobalt reformulated their GT Sport pads about a year or so ago. Now they SQUEAL LOUD on the street, so they're not what the OP is looking for. Too bad, because I really liked the old GT Sport.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BlueR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats not an awesome price

trust me</TD></TR></TABLE>

Show me where you can get them for less. Because right now, here are the prices I know for the HPS for the ITR front (Hawk part number HB143F.680):

TH Motorsports - $67.57 (free shipping over $100)
No Limit - $77.87 (free shipping over $150)
Johnson Racing Development - $77
Tire Rack - $76

You can look in this topic for the best prices on the HP+. There, too, though, THMotorsports had the best prices.

So, as far as I know, THMotorsports has the best prices on both Hawk pads. If there's someplace that has them for less (available to the public, not just someone who "knows a guy"), I'd love to hear about it.

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I haven't been impressed with Carbotech. Their street pad, the Bobcat, isn't all that high performance (they recommend NOT using it on the track); their street-track pad, the Panther Plus, performs well on the track, but it squeals like the proverbial stuck pig on the street. They don't sell a pad that meets my needs, that performs as well as the Hawk HP+ without major squealing.

 

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I haven't been impressed with Carbotech. Their street pad, the Bobcat, isn't all that high performance (they recommend NOT using it on the track); their street-track pad, the Panther Plus, performs well on the track, but it squeals like the proverbial stuck pig on the street. They don't sell a pad that meets my needs, that performs as well as the Hawk HP+ without major squealing.
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Hi-

The "Panther" and "Panther Plus" names have been out of production for some time. When did you last try a set?

What makes Carbotech different is they engineer their own compounds. So this means they are always improving their products. Recently, I discovered they have improved/ re-engineered the XP12 four times in the last two years.

I use their race pads and I'm not super familiar with their "lite duty" selections, but I'm sure they have a good application for your needs. They offer the XP8, XP10 and XP12 for track use and those are all great.

I'll be at Expo 8 and I'll bring a few sets of used Carbotech XP12's if you'd like to try a set on me.

Cheers-
JW

 

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I'm kind of leaning toward Hawk HPS, but any opinions would be great. Pads will only be for aggressive street driving, maybe 1 or 2 track days. I need something with low dust and no squealing, yet has a good initial bite.

Thanks
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For what you are saying you will need them for Id get another set of stock pads for street and then get something more track oriented (Hawk HP+ or better) for track days and swap them out at the track. Takes 5min per side.

HPS are junk, in my experience with them, they are not as good as stock ITR pads and would be toast less than 1 track day, maybe even sooner than that.

 

I use Endless CC-X on the front at the moment, with Project Mu SCR- PRO Rotors, and Spoon calipers.

CC-X do not squeel, and bite veryyy nicely. However they are quite harsh on the rotor - as they are a carbon ceramic compound.

Have you looked in Project Mu pads, as well as the Endless range. They both are great pads and aren't tooooo exxy.

 

Allright, now i'm re-thinking the HPS. Guess I still got to do some more research.


Anyone use Project MU Pads?

 

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Guess it doesn't matter that this guy is saying it's a dangerous pad? OH BUT COOL AWESOME PRICES YEAH!!!
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This could be the first time hearing anything bad about the hawk HPS's. I will not let one negative comment stop me from at least trying them out and making my own opinion. Thanks for your enthusiasm though

 

i have used numerous pads and for what the op wants, nothing better than oem. i have tracked them for a full day at streets of willow in what seemed like 900 degree heat and experienced minimal fade. plus there is nothing as reliable as an oem pad and its the best value by far.

 

i'm not sure how you could consider the HPS "dangerous" i've never experienced anything I would consider dangerous or scary. I do agree however that it is NOT a track pad. like someone above suggested, have a set of track pads and some OEM or OEM equivalent pads, there just isn't a pad that is aggressive enough for the track and streetable in terms of noise and dust.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by verticle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> there just isn't a pad that is aggressive enough for the track and streetable in terms of noise and dust.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Exactly.

The OP needs to get stock ITR pads for what he wants them to do. If the OP would just do some homework he would have realized that taking the dust out of the equation REALLY limits your options very quickly for the worse. Forget project mu. You need stock pads. Nobody will ever break open your brake caliper and call you out for using stock ITR pads.