Just wondering where I fall in a SCCA solo class?

1993 Honda civic Si
stock motor
intake
stock header
exhaust
cusco coilovers
15x7 re-01r's
strut bars
crome pro tune

 

STS i think..

i fergot the details on ecu tune

 

one more thing, do I need to put my back seat back in?

 

yes, otherwise you're moving to prepared.

 

Thanks.

 

You would be in DSP the way you sit.

 

as long as the crome pro tune is on a stock chipped ecu (not an aftermarket one), you have a catalytic converter, and you have a complete interior, then you are in STS.

 

It is a stock crome tune (base p28) tune, I can put my interior back in, but I do NOT have a cat.

DSP it is then? Correct, which is what I thought.

 

yup dsp it is..

*thought* wow i like how people give u a mod list.. only later to give u shyt liek i have no interior and no cat hahaha

 

doesn't make sense, but i will have fun.

 

weld a cat in and go to STS? that's what i'd do, anyway.

 

I think you still need the back seat for STS.
and I think the ECU is out too.


Just show up and run in STS... if it's your first time out.. you will probably not get protested anyways..

 

Correct.

 

I can easily put a back seat in, and I can easily change the ECU back, but the cat will not be changed. I don't understand how a cat delete can place you into another class. Not worried. I am going more-so for seat time rather than to compete. Its the last competition of the season, and the first time I have ran in the states.

 

I did not think ECU mods were STS legal. Or else I would mess with mine this week and have launch control ready for Sunday.

 

they are legal... i think u need the STOCK ECU though

most sts civic run the redshift ecu... but i think its just a reflash or something

but i dont think you can have like a 2step or laucnh control...

i think the redshift just raises revlimit and other little stuff to bring out a lil more power

but i think solox on here can get more indepth with that

 

I think the reasoning behind cat-delete being a different class is because it technically makes your car no longer street legal. So by SCCA logic, if it's not street legal, then it is a race car.

 

I guess I will drive my race car to the track then. Oh, and to work tomorrow. Bad ***.
Suppose I should show up with the car seat in the back?

 

No, just leave that dead weight behind. You will be in DSP regardless.

 

Yeah, if you're just going to go to get some seat time, sign up for DSP and have fun

as far as classing, trust me, there have been many many rules that have been put into place in the SCCA rule book that are even more senseless than the "cat delete rule", such as stock classes allowing $4000 motons, but mandating OEM sized wheels.

 

Wow.

Auto-x'n for the last 2 years in a 'no class' enviroment hopefully will help me out.

Ah well.

 

Yeah, you're right. Accord ECUs are not even chippable anyways. You have to use Civic ECUs and re-do the fuel and ignition maps.

 

He MUST have the back seat installed to run Street Prepared. As it sits now with no rear seat, the car would be in Street Modified.

Indeed. I see this all the time at events. You're trying to class someone and they tell you they have a "stock engine," then disclose later on that the engine is unmodified but has been swapped from a Formula 1 car or something

That's some lame advice. Why show up and knowingly enter in a class for which your car is illegal? There are rules for a reason; you abide by them if you have dignity and respect. Otherwise, stay home.

You deleted the cat for a reason, right? What would that reason be? Think about it.

If there were no performance benefit, you wouldn't have bothered to do it. Some vehicles have multiple cats and will benefit more from removal than others.

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That's a good attitude, and an attitude that I wish a lot more people had when first starting out or getting back into the sport.

 

There is no cat because the car didn't come with one. I was planning to do an engine swap with a big tube header, so no need to find another cat to put in there. Plans have changed, so I need to figure things out a little differently.

I need to get out to the event and quit listening to people online. Seems everyone has something different to say.

I was asking because I have to pre-register, and put my class on the pre-reg. form. I will register for DSP. I will take the backseat with me.

 

You will be legal for DSP with the rear seat installed.

If you had a cat on the car, you would be legal (and not too ill-prepared) for STS. ECU reprogramming is legal in STS as long as it is still contained within the stock ECU housing; however, you are not allowed to use a fuel pressure regulator in conjunction with a reprogrammed ECU.