I got a mini dvd cam up for sale. hitachi dvd cam widescreen 16:9 and you could also put in a scan disk memory card and use it as a digital camcorder. 1200x digital zoom, 25x optical zoom. Works great, I used it all of maybe 10 times. I have a sony handycam, that was used more often. Anyway $200 shipped to your door. I see these on the internet going from $340-399.99 plus shipping etc. Also comes with a nice little man purse for yourself.