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kp99 Mar 11, 2008 06:02 PM

TSX Projectors
 
Does anyone know what year the fresnel was replaced by the clear lens? Do you have any pictures of these two lenses?

striker_18 Mar 11, 2008 10:50 PM

Re: TSX Projectors (kp99)
 
07 and up are fresnel.
04-06 are clear
As soon as Photobucket starts working again, I'll upload pictures of both lenses.

prelude1897 Mar 12, 2008 04:13 AM

Re: TSX Projectors (striker_18)
 
06 is when they started having frensel lenses

striker_18 Mar 12, 2008 11:21 AM

Clear:
https://i214.photobucket.com/albums/...sc03716wj6.jpg


Fresnel
https://i214.photobucket.com/albums/...bayPics235.jpg

SportEL Mar 12, 2008 05:20 PM

What is the difference in light output between the clear and fresnel. I'm assuming the fresnel will be better since they are on newere models, correct?

prelude1897 Mar 12, 2008 05:55 PM

Re: (SportEL)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SportEL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What is the difference in light output between the clear and fresnel. I'm assuming the fresnel will be better since they are on newere models, correct?</TD></TR></TABLE>

actually the clear ones are better. They have a clearer light output and more blue/purple color flickering

kp99 Mar 13, 2008 02:55 PM

Re: (striker_18)
 
Thanks for the pics. Are the clear ones in the pics yours and possibly for sale?

striker_18 Mar 13, 2008 03:11 PM

Re: (kp99)
 
that's from a year ago but some people need comparison pictures so i just saved them on my photobucket account LOL

SportEL Mar 13, 2008 05:09 PM

Re: (prelude1897)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by prelude1897 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

actually the clear ones are better. They have a clearer light output and more blue/purple color flickering</TD></TR></TABLE>

Do you know why newer models of cars would use worse projectors? I thought things should be improving not getting worse with time. There has to be a reason why.

striker_18 Mar 13, 2008 07:52 PM

Re: (SportEL)
 
Some people complained about the quick flickering of the bulb u know when they go from white to blue to purple? that's what they don't like. Thats why the fresnel lense was made. To not project a sharp beam and make everything fuzzy that way it won't look bother you eyes more.
tsx fresnel has almost the same output but the cutoff will be blurry instead of really sharp.

prelude1897 Mar 13, 2008 07:54 PM

Re: (striker_18)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by striker_18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Some people complained about the quick flickering of the bulb u know when they go from white to blue to purple? that's what they don't like. Thats why the fresnel lense was made. To not project a sharp beam and make everything fuzzy that way it won't look bother you eyes more.
tsx fresnel has almost the same output but the cutoff will be blurry instead of really sharp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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5SpdH22 Mar 14, 2008 06:39 PM

Re: (prelude1897)
 
frsnel lenses can also be ade much thinner than a regular convex lens, but based on that picture they both look about the same depth.

htsang07 Mar 14, 2008 09:07 PM

Re: (striker_18)
 
so would the flickering be like a normal thing? and is it only going to flicker in the beginning?

striker_18 Mar 14, 2008 09:59 PM

flickeriing is there but you will notice distortion instead of a pure and sharp blue/purple beam

htsang07 Mar 14, 2008 10:23 PM

Re: (htsang07)
 
I meant on the clear lenses. is the flicking suppose to be there or is it something to be worried about? and does the flickering only occur when u first turn on the lights or it's going to flicker like the whole time it's on?

and i thought that the clear tsx lenses give pretty good and sharp cutoffs with nice coloring.. why would there be distortion?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by htsang07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so would the flickering be like a normal thing? and is it only going to flicker in the beginning?</TD></TR></TABLE>

striker_18 Mar 14, 2008 10:30 PM

Re: (htsang07)
 
the flickering is a saying for when you look at a projector, you see the change in colors.
If the cutoff is real sharp, the flickering becomes really obvious.
So, if your eye level is below the cutoff, you will see one color and when the car goes over a bumper, your eyelevel will be at the cutoff and you will see blue and then once the road is smooth and flat, you will see the original color. That quick change from white to blue then back to white is the flickering effect.
What you're asking is if the flickering has something to do with the bulb. The answer is no.
One thing is the flickering effect of a projector. Another is a bad bulb/ballasts that causes the output to start blinking/flickering. The flickering from a bulb will look as dim then intense then dim, everything will be the same color.

kp99 Mar 15, 2008 06:19 PM

Re: (striker_18)
 
Would the combo of 2004 TSX projectors + Lexus ballast + Philips bulb reduce the flickering? I'm in the midst of purchasing this and would like to know what you think.

prelude1897 Mar 15, 2008 08:40 PM

Re: (kp99)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kp99 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would the combo of 2004 TSX projectors + Lexus ballast + Philips bulb reduce the flickering? I'm in the midst of purchasing this and would like to know what you think. </TD></TR></TABLE>

no, it'll still work the same

htsang07 Mar 15, 2008 11:49 PM

Re: (striker_18)
 
ohh, so flickering is just seeing the like cutoff part of the lights that has color, so its not a bad thing since the road will be the original color anyway, right?

so the fresel is just to make the cut off coloring less clear?

prelude1897 Mar 16, 2008 05:52 AM

Re: (htsang07)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by htsang07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ohh, so flickering is just seeing the like cutoff part of the lights that has color, so its not a bad thing since the road will be the original color anyway, right?

so the fresel is just to make the cut off coloring less clear?</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's correct. If the projectors have a clear lense, you'll have more color flickering than if the lenses were frensel.

htsang07 Mar 16, 2008 04:09 PM

Re: (prelude1897)
 
do people not like that? the "flickering". i think it's pretty cool.. lol

htsang07 Mar 21, 2008 12:47 AM

Re: (htsang07)
 
Hey, i was just wonder because i got a shop to help me do the retrofit, and im a bit concerned about whether or not the projectors are secure because, you know the roads aren't very smooth all the time and im afraid the projectors might get loose.
how are you suppose to hold the projectors up tightly?


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