what can i do to get more torque from a b16. Right now, everything on the motor is stock.

 

Replace it with a B18...

Seriously, torque=displacement or a replacement thereof, ie FI or nitrous. If you have a B16 and want more grunt, consider the LS/VTEC or B20/VTEC

 

there is no replacement for displacement

 

without buying a new motor is there anything i can do.

 

unless you want forced induction (i.e. nitrous, turbo, supercharger) then no. nothing you do will give you sufficent torque numbers
thats why im doing a b20/vtec. i have a b16 and there is NO TORQUE.

 

Have your never heard anyone call it the torqueless monster. They have a good reason.

 

boost

 

REPLACEMENT FOR DISPLACEMENT: BOOST

 

you can increase the Bore size of the b16.. but if u got to 83 or 84mm u may want to sleeve the block as well and it will give you added torque as well as keep the rev-happyness of the b16..so either go that way or as all they have stated Turbo..or just sale the b16 and drop in a h22 but that's up to your budget

 

Finally, someone who knows engine mechanic skills....you people kill me with thinking the B16 is slow and torqueless compared to the 1.8L....there are ways to work around it. Just know what your doing. I bet none of you ever thought of head work as well huh?!....

 

93 gsr 1.7 crank with ctr pistons.

 

hah you assume none of the people who answered have mechanical skills?
once you increase the b16 bore you need new pistons, and well hell while your at it you might as well build the entire block because its gonna be apart. your looking at an easy 3000$ for a project of that magnitude (1000 for block, 1500 for pistons, etc etc) its cheaper and easier to just turbo the thing. and head work dosent add much torque. you can port/polish 4 angle valve job, use oversized valves its the displacment that matters. not how fast air moves in and out.

 

Well yeah, if you completely rebuild the B16 INTO a 1.8L engine it will have more torque, but it's way more economical to just buy a 1.8L or 2.0L block and swap it on. Geez.

Oh, and headwork if anything will make you LOSE low-end torque to gain a little bit of top-end hp. Unless you find a shop that will weld in additional material to make all the ports SMALLER. Oh yeah, that will probably cost more than a new engine too.

 

 

Torque comes from the stroke too, so you have to take that into consideration. Imo boring a b16 is worthless. Getting a b18c block would be more cost effective if you want a vtec block. If you want torque fro cheap get lsvtec or crvtec.

 

Buddy, you're talking to the people that own, race, and work on B16s all the time. You ask us what we think, we tell you what we think. We think torque from a 1.6L engine is bloody hard to come by. Why is that such a surprise?

P.S. this should be under 'raene' not 89_Y_49....

 

daym, who the hell bends you over for 1500 dollar pistons? you could have a complete bored and built bottom end for 1500, thats if you do the work yourself as far as putting it together....

 

Cheapest torque is Nitrous. Not my cup of tea but it works.

Really though, get a 1.8 block and you will be happier.

I've had both the 1.6 and the 1.8

Night and day difference.

 

I'm actually looking at the 1.8 non-vtec block, I've got the 1st gen b16 in my hatch already.

What I want to know is, especially for those that have done it, what all parts did u have to upgrade from your 1.6 to 1.8 vtec?? I'm trying to keep it all stock honda, if I can help it, meaning LS block, CTR pistons, CTR/ITR cams(heard the 1st gen b's suck) etc...

So what else has to go/be replaced? I've seen this setup for ~$ 1,750...

LS Block
CTR or ITR OEM pistons
Piston rings
OEM Honda Bearings
New Type R oil pump
Oil Pan Gasket
Oil Filter
Machine/hone/deck block
Assembly
Shot peen rods
ARP Head Studs
VTEC head tap, Earl fittings, steel braided lines for B Series/VTEC

Good deal ?? or NO ??? What else am I gonna need to drop the 1.8 in there safely with supreme reliability & function? Any estimates on the labor to make this complete changeover??

Thanks for any replies, and as far as the original post question, everybody's pretty much right, FI or a block upgrade is about the only way to get torque from a 1.6.

If you want all-motor torque on a b-series vtec motor, drop the 1.8 or 2.0 block in there...50-60 lb/ft gain with little effort. Go b20 for the most torque, but ur gona spend more $$ than a 1.8, and/because ur using aftermarket parts...the 1.8 can basically stay all honda, and save u some $$ because of it.

Thanks 4 ya time!

 

but don't sleeves look so beautiful?



golden eagle

 

nobody "bends me over" for that much
if you overbore the sleeves, you need custom pistons your gonna need custom rings
that gets expensive man.


[Modified by KAMiN, 1:04 AM 5/29/2002]

 

Seriously, if you want to keep your stock Motor and dont' want to mess with the motor the best and only way is to upgrade to a JDM ITR 4.7FD tranny. I guarantee you the torque.

 

man there really are some dumbasses commenting here. If you want more power from the b16 there are several options.

If you want to stay with the 1.6 block and N/A I suggest...
1) resleeve to 84 or 84.5. You cannot bore out to that much . You have to resleeve.
2) Big cams. I assume since you want more down low tq, you will probably want some TODA spec Bs. If you want gobs of top end, go either Skunk2 stage2 or Jun3s.
3) High compression pistons.
4) ATS 4.929 or JDM ITR fd.

If you want to stay with the 1.6 and FI then just go nitrous or Turbo. Build the bottom end for it and throw in some CTR cams.

Or you could always buy a b18c1.

 

your other choice is to stroke it to 1.8l.....the kits are $2000-3000 which not exactly cheap since a new ITR block from honda is about $2000 or so....

other choice is to resleeve the block + storke it....this way 2.0l can be created from 1.6l block but the price tag is more then a well built b20vtec with your b16a head on top

 

if uur lookin for a little cheap torque and hp, i put a underdrive pulley on my d16a6 that had a gude head, cam, and ecu. i could feel the difference. I also took off my ac aa litle later to free up a little more hp and torque.