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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 01:44 PM
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Hello fellow enthusiasts im new to this forum and I need your help. I plan on doing a B18C (NOT B18C1) swap in my EJ chassis (1999 civic EX) and i was wondering what are you guys thoughts on this motor and if u have any tips for anything I would HIGHLY appreciate it. My budget is $5,000 from my taxes 😝💰

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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 01:50 PM
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Btw this is the motor im getting

http://www.jdmenginedepot.com/jdm_engine_details/16/Honda_B18C_Integra_GSR_OBD1_Engine,_Manual_Transmi ssion,_&_ECU_JDM_B18C
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 01:52 PM
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its pretty straight forward swap if you get all your parts. With that budget you should make it happen easily.

there is a few write ups on the site, you can search for swap.

one thing to pay attention to is your region and the emission testing. You might need to find a USD type R ecu if you need to pass emissions.

other than that, the jdm ecu will work great. or a tuned obd1 ecu.

while you are doing the swap, update the basics, such as water pump, thermostat, timming belt, and other basic gaskets.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 01:54 PM
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correction to above, I thought you ment Type R b18c. IF GSR swap, for emissions the obd2 p72 will work.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 02:00 PM
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correction to above, I thought you ment Type R b18c. IF GSR swap, for emissions the obd2 p72 will work.
The motor comes with the ECU n its both obd1 but im not really worried about emissions. Lol i run a high flow cat on my car now but that was b4 i went to get my inspection lol n im in NJ n all they do is use a scanner lol
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If you use an OBD1 ECU, their scanner won't work, and you'll fail instantly. You said "NOT B18C1" like it meant something. It doesn't. What you're getting is basically the same as the B18C1. You don't have an EK, you have an EJ8.

The biggest "tip" anyone here could possibly give you? Go read the FAQ sticky.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 03:13 PM
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If you use an OBD1 ECU, their scanner won't work, and you'll fail instantly. You said "NOT B18C1" like it meant something. It doesn't. What you're getting is basically the same as the B18C1. You don't have an EK, you have an EJ8.

The biggest "tip" anyone here could possibly give you? Go read the FAQ sticky.
1996 to 2000 civics are all considered ek's, to be more specific with my year, yea i do have an ej8. Still called an ek cuz it was made within those years. N a b18C and B18C1 are 2 different stamped motors. N idc about failing or passing i just wanna run it.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 03:27 PM
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read the faqs, a guide is in there
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Yeah, you're going to come in here and tell the veterans what's right and wrong. Sure. You're new here, so I'll try to be nice.

When you're circlejerking with your friends, call it whatever the **** you want. Around here, in the technical forums, we use proper terminology. Why? Because the diagnostic differences between an EJ6, EJ7, EJ8, EK4, EK9, EK3, as well as all of the EG/EH/5G EJ variants can be HUGE. If you actually have an EK, then swapping in any other B series motor should be easy - you already have a B in there, just pull it and drop the new engine and ECU in, done! But no. You have an EJ8. It's not quite that simple.

Do you know what the differences are between the B18C and the B18C1? Didn't think so. The stamps, and market origins, are basically the ONLY real difference.

Now go read the FAQ sticky, and while you're at it, read the rules sticky. We don't do hand holding around here, which is what you're expecting. Drop the shitty attitude, and you might be able to learn something from us. Keep it, and you'll get put in your place with a quickness.
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Tips......

- Look at swapping in with a new mount kit, one with a street friendly durometer
- replace shifter bushings
- besides a new clutch and or new/used flywheel, make sure you replace the rear main seal!!
- remove the throttle body and clean it up and any part of the intake manifold at the same time. jdm engines "really" get gummed up over the years!
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Originally Posted by NotARacist
Yeah, you're going to come in here and tell the veterans what's right and wrong. Sure. You're new here, so I'll try to be nice.

When you're circlejerking with your friends, call it whatever the **** you want. Around here, in the technical forums, we use proper terminology. Why? Because the diagnostic differences between an EJ6, EJ7, EJ8, EK4, EK9, EK3, as well as all of the EG/EH/5G EJ variants can be HUGE. If you actually have an EK, then swapping in any other B series motor should be easy - you already have a B in there, just pull it and drop the new engine and ECU in, done! But no. You have an EJ8. It's not quite that simple.

Do you know what the differences are between the B18C and the B18C1? Didn't think so. The stamps, and market origins, are basically the ONLY real difference.

Now go read the FAQ sticky, and while you're at it, read the rules sticky. We don't do hand holding around here, which is what you're expecting. Drop the shitty attitude, and you might be able to learn something from us. Keep it, and you'll get put in your place with a quickness.

B18C is the jdm gsr motor with 180 hp. B18C1 is the USDM gsr motor with 170 hp. So yea i do know the differences. U obviously dont know ur **** buddy. So how about YOU go n check the damn sticky faqs or w.e u call it n do some more research. I can say i have a EK all i want cuz all EK means is the 6th gen civics.
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 03:39 PM
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Tips......

- Look at swapping in with a new mount kit, one with a street friendly durometer
- replace shifter bushings
- besides a new clutch and or new/used flywheel, make sure you replace the rear main seal!!
- remove the throttle body and clean it up and any part of the intake manifold at the same time. jdm engines "really" get gummed up over the years!
Thanks for the advice. But for the mounts, do i need to change the driver side mount? Cuz i have the same mount as the 99-00 si n it uses the same mount for the b16. I need advice from ppl who ACTUALLY did a bseries swap. Js for future references.
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The only difference in the jdm B18C gsr is the pistons! They use the same compression pistons are a usdm type r at 10.6:1, but don't have the moly coating. It makes 180hp

The usdm B18C1 is the same engine with a lower comp piston sitting at 10.1:1, that's where the difference is
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Old Feb 6, 2015 | 03:41 PM
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You can use stock B16 mounts are they are the same to mount any b series, or you go with an upgraded aftermarket.....Hasport, Avid, ect

People could say I swapped a "couple" of B series, lol
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Originally Posted by Deetz
You can use stock B16 mounts are they are the same to mount any b series, or you go with an upgraded aftermarket.....Hasport, Avid, ect

People could say I swapped a "couple" of B series, lol
Good then ur just the man i can talk to! Lol i know i NEED a rear T bracket from an si but im confused on the drivers side part since the si has the same mount as my d16y8
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on the drivers side, the engine mount is the same.....the engine "post" mount is not, you will need that for your engine block
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Originally Posted by Chrisjvargas
I need advice from ppl who ACTUALLY did a bseries swap. Js for future references.
No, what you want is to have your hand held.

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...tions-1998336/

https://honda-tech.com/honda-civic-d...sting-3002401/

Now stop being a lazy ignorant **** and go educate yourself.
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If you get that engine the ECU, injectors, alternator, distributor will not plug and play. You'll need to get the OBD2 equivalents or adapters (minus injectors as you can swap your ex ones over). The intake air temp sensor won't plug and play you'll have to put yours into the intake arm or swap over connectors. You'll also have to wire up the IABs. The OBD1 ECU will auto fail a scanner test as mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by Deetz
on the drivers side, the engine mount is the same.....the engine "post" mount is not, you will need that for your engine block
So u mean the post wit the 2 studs on it right? So im gonna need that off a b16a then?
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If you get that engine the ECU, injectors, alternator, distributor will not plug and play. You'll need to get the OBD2 equivalents or adapters (minus injectors as you can swap your ex ones over). The intake air temp sensor won't plug and play you'll have to put yours into the intake arm or swap over connectors. You'll also have to wire up the IABs. The OBD1 ECU will auto fail a scanner test as mentioned above.
To fix that im getting a new harness from chasebays.
If i ever decide to take it for inspection, is there a way to fix that? Cuz i will be getting Hondata s300 as well
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Nope, you'd have to get a P72 OBD2A with a jumper,you'll have to do some extra wiring things when you use it as the JDM B18C doesn't have a CKF or the evap purge component.
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Nope, you'd have to get a P72 OBD2A with a jumper,you'll have to do some extra wiring things when you use it as the JDM B18C doesn't have a CKF or the evap purge component.
But then i wont be able to tune wit an obd2 ecu
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Yep
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Old Feb 7, 2015 | 04:26 AM
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Yep
I can always just get a fake inspection sticker in my state lmao. Yup thats what ima do n get one for a 2 year inspection
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Originally Posted by Chrisjvargas
B18C is the jdm gsr motor with 180 hp. B18C1 is the USDM gsr motor with 170 hp. So yea i do know the differences. U obviously dont know ur **** buddy. So how about YOU go n check the damn sticky faqs or w.e u call it n do some more research. I can say i have a EK all i want cuz all EK means is the 6th gen civics.
The wiring on both these engines, whether obd1 or obd2, are no different. Sticky will tell you what you need.
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