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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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I have had a Honda since I have had my drivers license. My current car is a 2007 S2000 which I driven the last two years. Recently, I have had a spell of bad luck that I can't shake. This is within the last two months.

1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
5. Driver side seats tear. About four inches. Duck tape.
6. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.

I'm done with this car. I check on CEL issue and found allot of people with the same situation. I hate to give up on Honda but damn, this is way to much. Anybody has this much trouble?
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
I have had a Honda since I have had my drivers license. My current car is a 2007 S2000 which I driven the last two years. Recently, I have had a spell of bad luck that I can't shake. This is within the last two months.

1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
5. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.

I'm done with this car. I check on CEL issue and found allot of people with the same situation. I hate to give up on Honda but damn, this is way to much. Anybody has this much trouble?
just because you had a couple things go bad doesnt mean u should give up the car.

how often do u drive it. how aggressive are u as a drive. some of these things can go into play with a couple of your "problems"

**** happens

but as for the valve or whatever. that happen to my cousin as well. he went ahead and fixed it and didnt have any problems after.

your prolly just angry because so many things happen back to back. just push through it and enjoy your s2000. i did hear that they are prone to weake valves, but as i said earlier. it dpends on your aggressive driving. my cousin red line it a couple times and boom bent valve. it happens.

sorry for your recent bad events though.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 11:45 AM
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This is my weekend car and I sometimes drive it to work when i have allot of stress. Its a nice stress reliever but has been a stress this past few months. I would not call my self a aggressive driver. I like driving fast at 80mph on the highway but I don't rev the engine to redline. I have a feeling once I get the CEl light fix, the next thing that will happen to it is blow up in my garage. I'm just upset and ranting.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 11:56 AM
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
I have had a Honda since I have had my drivers license. My current car is a 2007 S2000 which I driven the last two years. Recently, I have had a spell of bad luck that I can't shake. This is within the last two months.

1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
5. Driver side seats tear. About four inches. Duck tape.
6. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.

I'm done with this car. I check on CEL issue and found allot of people with the same situation. I hate to give up on Honda but damn, this is way to much. Anybody has this much trouble?
1. You can't possible blame Honda for a rock cracking your window
2. Were your pads low? Should have used disc-quiet IIRC you apply to the back of the pad and it dries a rubbery compound. If your rotors are fine a resurface would be needed at most.
3. Why did you replace all four tires?
4. I doubt both needed replaced
5. Duck tape on leather sounds like a proper repair

Sounds like you're just throwing money at the car replacing parts without diagnosing your problems.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:18 PM
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1. You can't possible blame Honda for a rock cracking your window
2. Were your pads low? Should have used disc-quiet IIRC you apply to the back of the pad and it dries a rubbery compound. If your rotors are fine a resurface would be needed at most.
3. Why did you replace all four tires?
4. I doubt both needed replaced
5. Duck tape on leather sounds like a proper repair

Sounds like you're just throwing money at the car replacing parts without diagnosing your problems.
1. I don't.
2. Front pads were really low. Rear pads was average but went ahead and replaced them. The front rotors were almost out and could not be resurface.
3. Rear tires had inner balding for some reason. One of the rear tires popped on the highway. The front was getting to the same condition so I changed all four.
4. You might be right but I took the advice of some forum members. Some suggested replacing both. It works fine now.
5. Duck tape.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:31 PM
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I redline mine everyday and have done for the past 5 years or more.

No issues ever.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:34 PM
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just because you had a couple things go bad doesnt mean u should give up the car.

how often do u drive it. how aggressive are u as a drive. some of these things can go into play with a couple of your "problems"

**** happens

but as for the valve or whatever. that happen to my cousin as well. he went ahead and fixed it and didnt have any problems after.

your prolly just angry because so many things happen back to back. just push through it and enjoy your s2000. i did hear that they are prone to weake valves, but as i said earlier. it dpends on your aggressive driving. my cousin red line it a couple times and boom bent valve. it happens.

sorry for your recent bad events though.
you sir, are an idiot and should not be giving out advice...s2k valves are not prone to being weak and nor will taking the car to redline bend a valve...you could redline the car everyday and youre not going to bend a valve...you bend valves by over-reving the car and cracking a retainer...driver induced, not the cars fault

OP...brakes, tires, and hell, even clutch accesories are all wearable items...youre going to have replace then from time to time...if thats an issue, dont own a car...the rock in the windshield can only be described as **** happens...i have free windshield replacement so i could careless about that...the seats wear out...its just one of those things that happens with age...a tire blowing and a seat tear in an 07 leads me to believe you neglect the car...i have an 01 with over 100k and my seats have no cracks or tears, nor have i ever blown a tire...i also condition the leather and make sure my tire pressures are always where they should be...finally, the mis-fire code...make sure you eliminate coil packs before you let anyone tear the head off...more often than not, its a coil or spark plug issue
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:49 PM
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you sir, are an idiot and should not be giving out advice...s2k valves are not prone to being weak and nor will taking the car to redline bend a valve...you could redline the car everyday and youre not going to bend a valve...you bend valves by over-reving the car and cracking a retainer...driver induced, not the cars fault

OP...brakes, tires, and hell, even clutch accesories are all wearable items...youre going to have replace then from time to time...if thats an issue, dont own a car...the rock in the windshield can only be described as **** happens...i have free windshield replacement so i could careless about that...the seats wear out...its just one of those things that happens with age...a tire blowing and a seat tear in an 07 leads me to believe you neglect the car...i have an 01 with over 100k and my seats have no cracks or tears, nor have i ever blown a tire...i also condition the leather and make sure my tire pressures are always where they should be...finally, the mis-fire code...make sure you eliminate coil packs before you let anyone tear the head off...more often than not, its a coil or spark plug issue
I'm just upset this all happened within two months. I understand **** happens but damn. I can't explain the tires or seat but I don't neglect my car, its my baby. I have already ruled out the coil, spark plug and fuel injectors. I had several shops do a compression test with cylinder 3 lower then the rest.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 12:52 PM
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they were only suggestions. not advice.

like he said, he was just ranting because its been stressing him out.

and i said "i hear they are prone..."

i didnt state that they are prone, point blank, period.
just passing information. he did say himself that a lot of people had the same problem with valves and what not. so yah. just trying to help him feel better and not blame things on the car.

**** happens.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 01:51 PM
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they were only suggestions. not advice.

like he said, he was just ranting because its been stressing him out.

and i said "i hear they are prone..."

i didnt state that they are prone, point blank, period.
just passing information. he did say himself that a lot of people had the same problem with valves and what not. so yah. just trying to help him feel better and not blame things on the car.

**** happens.

dont pass information that isnt correct...hearsay is also known as bullshit

OP, how many miles are on your car? i cant imagine that youd have an issue with an F22 on an 07 that was properly maintained...not saying thats the case, i just find it odd since these motors are usually bullet-proof
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
1. I don't.
2. Front pads were really low. Rear pads was average but went ahead and replaced them. The front rotors were almost out and could not be resurface.
3. Rear tires had inner balding for some reason. One of the rear tires popped on the highway. The front was getting to the same condition so I changed all four.
4. You might be right but I took the advice of some forum members. Some suggested replacing both. It works fine now.
5. Duck tape.
Sounds like you need an alignment.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 03:20 PM
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1-5 sounds like routine maintenance, don't be lazy. Stay up on your car and it will cause less headache. 6 could be narrowed down with a compression and or leakdown test. You could have something as common as a bent valve or complex as poor piston rings. Compression and leakdown test arent expensive. Replacing a valve(might as well do all, be sure to upgrade to supertech or ferrea) is about 300-400 labor. Keep your Oem springs, upgrade valves, seats, guides. Be sure to check your retainers too. Before all of that, whens the last time you checked your spark plugs?
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
As they say, **** happens.

2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
Common maintenance items.

4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
More rare, but still a maintenance item.

5. Driver side seats tear. About four inches. Duck tape.
Hi, you have a 6 year old car. Depending on how often that car sits out in the sun/elements, that 6 years may be like 12 years.

6. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.
Could be valve seals too. Leak oil into the cylinder, misfire, boom... CEL. On my '04, I had to have the head rebuilt (new valve seals, guides, head work, etc) due to a CEL for misfire. Thankfully my car was a CPO and Honda covered the fixes.

So, realistically, you had one rather semi-serious issue... while the others are a fact of owning a car.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:36 PM
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Just a bit of advice Steve...but if you're this upset about the woes you've been experiencing with your S2000, don't ever ever EVER buy anything made in Europe...ever. You'd probably take a swan dive off a high rise after your first legitimate repair invoice.

This has been a public service announcement brought to you by me.
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Old Mar 6, 2013 | 04:56 PM
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None of those are really problems just S2000s get, those are problems any car owner deals with from time to time.
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Be more careful getting in and out. It should be like a ballet act, not like jumping into a ball pit full of little boys.
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I'll gladly take this horrible car off your hands
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I disagree with this thread, and I snapped two valves (due to my own error). The S2000 is just like any other car, treat it well and you should expect the same treatment in return.
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
I have had a Honda since I have had my drivers license. My current car is a 2007 S2000 which I driven the last two years. Recently, I have had a spell of bad luck that I can't shake. This is within the last two months.

1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
5. Driver side seats tear. About four inches. Duck tape.
I would not worry about any of those problems. There cheap and not a design flaw in the car.

Drivers seat wear is usually the drivers fault. In low cars like a S2000 people tend slide down the left side bolster(sp?). When I get out of my car I put the seat back a few inches and tilt the back rest back a little.

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6. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.
What kind test have they run? A misfire in one cylinder could be a coil pack or a fuel injector.

I mean it is probably a bad engine and you should sell your POS car to me for $5000.
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Looks like everything that needs to be said, has been said already..
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Originally Posted by steve07s2000
I have had a Honda since I have had my drivers license. My current car is a 2007 S2000 which I driven the last two years. Recently, I have had a spell of bad luck that I can't shake. This is within the last two months.

1. Front window cracks due to rocks. Replaced.
2. Brakes start to sequel. Replaced brakes and rotors.
3. Rear tire blows. Replaced all four tires.
4. Clutch gets soft. Replaced master and slave cylinder.
5. Driver side seats tear. About four inches. Duck tape.
6. Cylinder 3 misfire. CEL. They said its either the piston or valve and need to take out the head which can cost more than 1500.

I'm done with this car. I check on CEL issue and found allot of people with the same situation. I hate to give up on Honda but damn, this is way to much. Anybody has this much trouble?
1 - nobody to blame, **** happens
2, 3, 4, 5 - wear items
6 - I'd bet money that car was BEAT on

None is really Honda's fault.
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I'll gladly take this horrible car off your hands
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Originally Posted by Boots
you sir, are an idiot and should not be giving out advice...s2k valves are not prone to being weak and nor will taking the car to redline bend a valve...you could redline the car everyday and youre not going to bend a valve...you bend valves by over-reving the car and cracking a retainer...driver induced, not the cars fault

OP...brakes, tires, and hell, even clutch accesories are all wearable items...youre going to have replace then from time to time...if thats an issue, dont own a car...the rock in the windshield can only be described as **** happens...i have free windshield replacement so i could careless about that...the seats wear out...its just one of those things that happens with age...a tire blowing and a seat tear in an 07 leads me to believe you neglect the car...i have an 01 with over 100k and my seats have no cracks or tears, nor have i ever blown a tire...i also condition the leather and make sure my tire pressures are always where they should be...finally, the mis-fire code...make sure you eliminate coil packs before you let anyone tear the head off...more often than not, its a coil or spark plug issue
exactly. this thread only needs that post. I bought a 2 owner ap1 with 70k, drove it like a race car for 30k miles. Original clutch, zero problems, kept up with maintenance, runs exactly the same as the day i bought it.

These are the two things I've never done to my s2k though: #1 slamming it into wrong gear and mechanically cause over rev as described in above post. #2 clutch dump for smokey drag race launches, this is the united states of america and we have plenty of cheap fun muscle cars to chose from for that sort of debauchery.
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I mechanically over revved mine within the 1st 15 mins of a 3 day track weekend. I drove all 3 track days and about a week of street driving on a severly cracked retainer. Bought AP2 retainers and tracked it a million more times and drove it to CA. On the way from Myrtle Beach to the dragon a YEAR!!! later, the car showed a misfire CEL. A fu#%ing year later, the car lost enough compression due to ovalized valve seats that it set a CEL.

Indestructible.

Put a good used head on it and the car is 100%. Can't wait to take it outta storage. The only car that is as fun AND reliable/maintenance free as a S2000 is another S2000.

So if you're selling your S2000...keep in mind that you're going to have to buy an Accord/Camry AND drive like a grandparent to achieve more reliability.
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Originally Posted by B serious
The only car that is as fun AND reliable/maintenance free as a S2000 is another S2000.

So if you're selling your S2000...keep in mind that you're going to have to buy an Accord/Camry AND drive like a grandparent to achieve more reliability.
Very well said.
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