Article: Entry Level ap1/ap2 building
I'd expand your "week 1" a bit more.
I don't want to get into a parts argument about what is crap and such, but you assuming you just bought the car, do you know when the rest of the fluids have been changed?
Whenever I get a used vehicle, that is where I always start. Engine Oil, Tranny, Dif, Brake and clutch fluid. Most people over look this step when they know they're getting rid of a car and dealerships don't do it because its not something people ever seem to ask about.
Just some additional food for thought.
I don't want to get into a parts argument about what is crap and such, but you assuming you just bought the car, do you know when the rest of the fluids have been changed?
Whenever I get a used vehicle, that is where I always start. Engine Oil, Tranny, Dif, Brake and clutch fluid. Most people over look this step when they know they're getting rid of a car and dealerships don't do it because its not something people ever seem to ask about.
Just some additional food for thought.
Helms service manual.
Pennzoil (5lts) SAE 10W-30 $23.99
Castrol GTX Conventional 10W-30 Motor Oil ((5lts)) $18.99
Mobile1 10W-30 Synthetic Motor Oil (5lts) $37.79
OEM filter #15400-PCX-004 $14
I'll add trans, diff, and also drain bolt, washers, magnetic bolts, shop rags/pan..
Woot.. this is great, thanks for all the input guys
the hankooks, SS's, and re-11's are all close enough in performance that most of us would never be able to tell the difference in optimum conditions. however, when you factor in pricing and how quickly you can get to that condition, the kook's or SS's are a much better choice
ive run my fair share of STR events now. if you are a single driver car i prefer the star specs because i had issues heating up the re-11's. even when they were hot i didnt notice a difference between them and star specs, and no where close r comps... SS are cheaper and just as effective IMO. boots, what class are you planning on running?
i dont know yet....ive been out of the game for a while, i think i ran SMS with my integra, but nothing was stock on that car....ill have to look through the classifications again and go from there
the braces will knock you out of STR, which IMO is as fun of a class as there is before spending the big bucks for the real fast classes. its a fairly cheap class to prep for and is a blast to compete in.
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editing the break/tire section soon...
generic ceramic pads, oem or better quality.
-Beck/Arnley OE Brake Pads * advanced auto $46.99 rear, 65.99 front.
-Stoptech Front/Rear $101.95 * ebay.
-ebc green stuff, #DP21254 - $100.00/front. * ebay
-ebc Ultimax, UD829 $55/front * ebay
Front:
Ap1
Front: 16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear: 16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire
AP2
Front: 17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear: 17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire (255 on the S2000 CR)
Summer - Dunlop Direzza Star Spec -225/50/16- $130ea
Summer - Bridgestone potenza re-11 -225/50/16- $166ea
All season - Bridgestone potenza re050 -225/50/16- $100ea
generic ceramic pads, oem or better quality.
-Beck/Arnley OE Brake Pads * advanced auto $46.99 rear, 65.99 front.
-Stoptech Front/Rear $101.95 * ebay.
-ebc green stuff, #DP21254 - $100.00/front. * ebay
-ebc Ultimax, UD829 $55/front * ebay
Front:
Ap1
Front: 16" x 6.5", +55 offset, 205 tire
Rear: 16" x 7.5", +65 offset, 225 tire
AP2
Front: 17" x 7.0", +55 offset, 215 tire
Rear: 17" x 8.5", +65 offset, 245 tire (255 on the S2000 CR)
Summer - Dunlop Direzza Star Spec -225/50/16- $130ea
Summer - Bridgestone potenza re-11 -225/50/16- $166ea
All season - Bridgestone potenza re050 -225/50/16- $100ea
The last time I bought OEM pads, the whole set from Honda was $125. It was cheaper or around the same price as parts store brands at the time. Honda has raised prices now though. But check www.hondaautomotiveparts.com or www.bernardiparts.com. Those are really good parts resources.
so i just read through almost the entire SCCA rule book and with my mods i already have and the ones im planning on doing i think im going to be running STX class
updated article
added a few things, thanks everyone for all the input. This is why i really dig working on stuff like this for the community. We actually give a **** about how we play with our toys
added a few things, thanks everyone for all the input. This is why i really dig working on stuff like this for the community. We actually give a **** about how we play with our toys
actually if you wish to lower the car and improve the suspension koni shocks have a dual perch so you can lower the car up to an inch with the stock springs.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
actually if you wish to lower the car and improve the suspension koni shocks have a dual perch so you can lower the car up to an inch with the stock springs.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
DOT 5.1 brake fluid is for show cars that dont see a lot of driving...5.1 brake fluid absorbs water at an extremely high rate and should be left alone unless youre changing the fluid every month...DOT 4 is more than sufficient for street driving and tracking
well i want to stay away from koni's, a lot of mods can be done here but i also want to keep it very basic, and cheap.. i have already started building a "n/a advanced" build, which does have koni's, 4.56/4.77 gears, and testing..
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actually if you wish to lower the car and improve the suspension koni shocks have a dual perch so you can lower the car up to an inch with the stock springs.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
The good thing about using the factory springs is the drivers side front is longer to compensate for the drivers weight unlike all off the shelf kits I have seen. Check the static wheel gap on your lowered car and you will see it's about 1/2 inch difference on that corner I get rub on that one or used to.
This will also help retain the factory corner weights.
If you must use springs use eibach or other quality german or tuv certified springs not race stiff junk from taiwan. The rates change and the ride will be overly harsh which along with the negative effects of adjusting your roll centers will make the car far less capable overall.
SPC ball joints not only fix your roll centers but allow for wide front tires without rubbing and without stupid amounts of camber.
For brakes decent pads are fine as is dot 5.1 motul but if you are going to replace the rotors buy the cryo treated brembos they will last alot longer.
How do ball joints allow you to use wider tires but not have to run more negative camber? Unless you're getting upper and lower adjustable ball joints and just adjusting the whole spindle inwards? Why is camber bad? I run like -2.5 degrees up front and -3.3 out back....and I use the whole tire. Drive more aggresively. Use the tire. Err...on the track, obviously.
Cryo treated rotors? Man...you sure like to spend that $$ unnecessarily. I use advance auto $35 rotors. They work great. If they crack...they have a 2 year warranty. I won't spend money on rotors. I will destroy pretty much any mass market rotor. What's the point of getting expensive ones? I track my car heavily. Rotors are a cheap, disposable part. For street-only cars....why the hell would anyone want/need cryo rotors? Stock stuff works more than fine on the street.
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Meh. 10W-30 Conventional works fine for me. When my car blows up from all the track abuse at 150k miles, I'll be able to buy myself a new motor with all the money I saved on oil! Great success!
My question is this: how are you going to run the S2K in STX: a class for 4 seat coupes and sedans? To my knowledge, its not eligible.
Running catless takes you out of ALL street classes. Removing the cat automatically puts you into prepared.
Berk high-flow cat. Or since you already have the test pipe, you could buy a High flow cat and have an exhaust shop weld it in for you.
see thats the thing...when i had my integra, i was in SM and i could tell you everything you need to know about that class...i have no idea what-so-ever as far as what my S would run or what that class would even restrict...right now all i have is an intake, that test pipe, and tein flex's, but i am planning to do a good amount of suspension work before march when the new season starts up


