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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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do ANY companies make a supercharger kit for the 4th GEN prelude with either the h22/h23?

i haven seen any so far, but i was curious if anyone else knew of one?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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I believe Jackson Racing used to make one for an h23 but it's been discontinued. Don't quote me on this, I've never looked into it.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:12 PM
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ECX is right, jackson racing made/makes one. I'm just not sure if they still do or not... and all the companies I've heard of are only for 5th gen.. turbo?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 03:36 PM
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the JRSC is for the 5th gen, but with some work, it has been modified to fit a 4th gen. If you do some searching there are a couple on this forum
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 06:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ECX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe Jackson Racing used to make one for an h23 but it's been discontinued. Don't quote me on this, I've never looked into it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

there was never one made for the 4th gen. h22 nor h23

all the kits are made for 5th gens, but like ^^said they have been modified to fit the 4th gen. IIRC user Qveon has a kit modified to fit his RHD 4th gen. the Driver side shock tower has to be modified to fit the pullies
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 07:50 PM
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does anyone know if the JRSC kit for the 97-01 lude can be installed on the H23 engine in the 4th gen? well without extensive modification at least, i don't mind a little cutting and drilling.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23prelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">does anyone know if the JRSC kit for the 97-01 lude can be installed on the H23 engine in the 4th gen? well without extensive modification at least, i don't mind a little cutting and drilling.</TD></TR></TABLE>

No it can't like 95greenlude said. It is not made for an H23 head or a 4th gen engine bay, so you will have to do extensive modification to get it to fit both of those....

Superchargers suck on 4-cylinders anyway for the most part. Do some research and learn about the extensive heat produced and the low power gains. A turbo setup is way better.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 10:07 PM
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took words right out of my mouth.

i mean if you wanted to try the modifications, i'd think you''d have to do it on a h22 and not on an h23. or its time for a frankenstein
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 05:20 AM
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DO NOT super charge it. I know first and second hand now. The amount of money in comparison to the gains is pathetic. With an extra thousand and maybe a bit, having a turbo would yield double the gains and the power-band would be better in the upper RPMs which is great for high reving h22s. Superchargers are good at lower rpms but bottom line with out getting into a two page story about why not, they suck (superchargers for 4 cylinder cars). That and superchargers are sort of limited to how high they can boost. Turbo's for preludes is almost limitless*.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hawkze_2.3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Superchargers suck on 4-cylinders anyway for the most part. Do some research and learn about the extensive heat produced and the low power gains. A turbo setup is way better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

unless you send it to Endyn and have the blower re-worked....their mods drop IAT's A LOT
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95greenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

unless you send it to Endyn and have the blower re-worked....their mods drop IAT's A LOT</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn them and their fancy gadgets! That's cool, though. It would be interesting to see someone go all-out on an H-supercharger build. I can't really think of any in recent memory....
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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user Geramy

http://www.preludeonline.com/f...20671

i hope you can see that....
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95greenlude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">user Geramy

http://www.preludeonline.com/f...20671

i hope you can see that....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Very cool, thanks Looks like a things are going pretty well on that so far....and 17psi
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:21 PM
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hey thanks a lot guys, ill defiantly be considering either customizing a supercharger kit, or possibly a VERY tuned multi port No2 injection system? but ill use all your advise wisely, the main goal is to beat this cocky kid at the track this summer who has a 95' Probe with a KL-ZE motor, he has always been just a hare (usually about .5-.7 second) faster in the 1/4 mile, and i already got the mods listed below, hopefully i can do something to finally beat this annoying kid


Modified by h23prelude at 7:37 PM 12/15/2007
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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I bet some slicks or other sticky tires would get you that much time....
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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yea, i got some Falken azenis rt-615 (road legal slick) sittin in my garage ready to be installed, just waiting for spring time. my biggest problem is there are no reputable tuners in my area that know anything about properly tuning a car, (i've heard horror stories about our local shops and would never let them touch my car) i wanted your guys opinion if you think i could possibly squeeze any power from getting an APEXi NEO , and an AEM wideband gauge/sensor and tuning my fuel mix and such with it? i know im running rich cuz my spk plugs and exhaust color/soot. i know a lot about properly tuning an engine, but i lack a dyno, or any good tuner shop

any suggestions would be greatly appreciated !
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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What exactly is your header/exhaust setup? Also, those pulleys are not doing anything for you, loose power steering, AC, and balance shafts if you want some power from ruducing parasitic loss.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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instead of using an Neo get something with data logging. use a laptop and tune it yourself. research tuning, and do it yourself

you dont NEED a dyno to tune.
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:16 PM
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my exhaust is a DC sport header (heat wrapped) no cat, and 2.25 to the rear resonator. and there is no ac pulley at all, i completely removed the pump. and i have heard some negative things about pulling the balance shafts, not so much performance wise, but that removing them effects engine life because it puts increased strain on the main bearings of the crank, but i digress thats a whole other discussion. has anyone here used E-mannage for tuning? i was told it works very good, just curious of its abilities and tuneability?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by h23prelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my exhaust is a DC sport header (heat wrapped) no cat, and 2.25 to the rear resonator. and there is no ac pulley at all, i completely removed the pump. and i have heard some negative things about pulling the balance shafts, not so much performance wise, but that removing them effects engine life because it puts increased strain on the main bearings of the crank, but i digress thats a whole other discussion. </TD></TR></TABLE>

OK, well that header is not doing anything either. There are a number of headers you can get that will actually make good power. Also a bigger exhaust with a high-flow cat would be good, keeping it at least 2.5" all the way back to the outlet.

Taking out or disabling the balance shafts has no effect on engine life, it's just for comfort. Where did you hear that?
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