Just got my H22 Prelude and have a few mods done. CAI, Header, 2 1/4 exhaust no cat with HKS muffler. My question is I want about 190-200 hp to the ground, what would be my best bet in reaching my goal? Im New to the H22 powerhouse, so ALL input is appreciated!!!

 

You already did the first part right by comming here. I have found that there is a lot of info on this site if you look arround for it. I am in the same boat as you (h22 with basic bolt ons). The next thing I am going to do is a better clutch. Good luck on your goal.

 

Look into doing brakes/suspension first - many people overlook that stuff. If you get a decent suspension - nice brakes - and a clutch system(with 8lbs flywheel) you'll think that your car is the ****. You'll have a lot more HP to the wheels, and overall have a bad *** stance.


Modified by NaptownKing at 7:31 AM 8/23/2005

 

Well to answer your question about gaining hp. what header do you have ? cams and a quality header like a rmf, smsp, prospeed etc. will get you on your way to 200whp also a good set of cams with spring and retainers will help.

 

and 2-1/4 piping is not gonna cut it.....go 2.5.....and pick up a real header like ^^said.....

thats about all you will need.....then just a little tuning and you will hit your 190 mark.....

oh and wtf with the suspension ****.....you do realize that none of your three suggestions bring about more hp right....

bigger brakes = less hp
suspension = no hp
flywheel/clutch = no hp

so overall you have netted a hmmmmm, negative hp change on your journey to 190-200 whp...

oooh but you will have a bad *** stance.....yeah....a slow ***, but bad *** prelude....

 

First off - i didn't say BIGGER Brakes...i said BETTER brakes.......

Second - he said he wanted to get the HP to the GROUND - I was just making a suggestion to help him get MORE TO THE GROUND..........READ THE DAMN POST..........There was absolutely NOTHING wrong with my post.........absolutely nothing.

AND HE SAID THAT ALL INPUT IS APPRECIATED........What have you contributed to his question? I'm sure many people would agree with me on this one.

 

you did not specify, you said brakes.....brakes have nothing to do with hp other than the fact that people lose hp from bigger rotors....

in order to transfer all 190 hp effectively to the ground, one must produce it first, and no, a bad *** stance will not produce more hp.....

 

Yeah I was looking into the RMF Header, heard good things about it. Right now its just a DC header.

I will more than likely put 2.5 inch piping in, now that im seeing quite a few people with it.

Right now im not even thinking about Brake upgrades, although I do have some 16" Rotas on the way! Just need the speed to keep up with my buddies supercharged LS integra....

 

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in order to transfer all 190 hp effectively to the ground, one must produce it first, and no, a bad *** stance will not produce more hp.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Obviously the Prelude produces that HP from the factory - so, a good suspension setup would in fact help him get more of the HP to the ground. Stop trying to start ****. And just because I said his car would look better - doesn't mean that you can take my words and twist them around. You ******* people get on my nerves with this ****. Come on here trying to start stuff all the time. Its 8:00am in the ******* morning. If you want to continue being an E-THug(internet thug) go ahead. But at the end of the day, there was nothing wrong with my post......

Anyway, Bryanh22 - a good suspension setup would in fact help you get more hp to the ground.....its a must. And if you get a good clutch along with a flywheel, you will indeed get more hp to the ground. My post was meant for you to not overlook something that important. It is said that every 1lb that you lose in your flywheel, you'll gain 2whp.........so, an 8lb flywheel would make a hell of a difference. People like mgags7 would only have a whole bunch of HP and no suspension - thats not smart at all. Oh - and I think you're pretty smart, so you should know that I never said a bad *** stance would produce hp - never said it once.

And if you create more HP.......you can go fast - whats the point if you can't STOP????? It was an addition to his question.........friggin e-thugs....terrible.....you'll never become a mod.

 

Yes Flywheel and clutch is a must on my list...and for the suspension im pretty sure once I see the Rota's on there im going to start thinking about springs or coilovers.

I love corners more than straight lines, so im pretty sure I wont forget about suspension...etc

 

Well, I'm glad you're smart....unlike some people.

 

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thats at the flywheel rookie, and the losses are not in the suspension, there in the tranny and axles

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Stop trying to start ****. And just because I said his car would look better - doesn't mean that you can take my words and twist them around. You ******* people get on my nerves with this ****. Come on here trying to start stuff all the time. Its 8:00am in the ******* morning. If you want to continue being an E-THug(internet thug) go ahead. But at the end of the day, there was nothing wrong with my post......

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im not being an e-thug y0......i just want to inform people that you are full of shitty advice....

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oh my gosh, listen to thomas edison here...

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- whats the point if you can't STOP????? It was an addition to his question.........friggin e-thugs....terrible.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

preludes' 4 wheel antilock disk brake system is more than enough to stop a roaring 190whp beast....

and listen to mod hopeful here.....

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damn, what a loss.....i always wanted to be a mod, looks like my chances are over....damn

 

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haha that is the biggest crock of **** i have ever heard.....fool....

 

Uh huh - yeah.............

I'm glad you took the time to write that - trying to make a come back because you're wrong????

Ha, I'm not going to start - haha.......but the fact is that you were wrong about this one. Be a man and admit.....i'm done posting - glad I helped bryanh22........

That was cute how you chopped my words and made little itty bitty comments about them........i'll give you a cookie next time. I promise.

Anyway, the brakes are all about being safe. Safety is always first on my list. Guess thats just me though - what a ***

That thomas edison joke hurt my feelings also - it was kinda lame.

And please explain how my advice was "so called SHITTY"........hmm......

I gave him valuable advice - he agreed - there's no way you can tell me that I gave bad advice........

 

Thanks to both

 

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haha that is the biggest crock of **** i have ever heard.....fool....</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hey - I saw it on h-t........

So, what was your purpose when you bought your 8lb flywheel????
Was it to get more HP to the ground , or just so you can rev alot while in neutral

 

or so i can rev a lot faster when i rev match my shifts....

im not saying that flywheels do not aid in acceleration, because they do...

on the contrary, they do NOTHING for hp, on the dyno a flywheel will not make a difference, and when someone comes in with hp gains, you dont tell them to upgrade things that do not contribute to hp....

and if you think you can believe everything you see on h-t, your really on that dope...

 

So it doesn't contribute to wheel HP at all????

Man, I've been mislead this entire time. Once again, i'm not talking about crank hp - i'm talking about getting the hp to the ground....not producing hp.

Teach me something - my eyes are wide open.

 

yeah, it does nothing at the wheels, its just like removing the balance shafts, its less drag on the motor, so it feels like you would have picked up some power when in fact it is just more readily available...

 

Are you serious????

Damn - mislead..........

My bad man, I was just under the impression that it did do something to the whp. I get most of my information from this site - so when someone says something, and no one corrects him/her.......i get the impresstion that it must be correct. Sorry about the argument.........

 

Not trying to start anything but Hey naptownking I know I don't know to much about the f22 And to you it was a funny and foolish question to ask, but damn at least I knew about this....lol...

 

This is going into my sig...

 

:D I didn't say it was a stupid question. That went into my sig because of hawkze_2.3's response.....your title said Quick Question - and he answered it so quick and simple.......

Yeah - but i'm just goign to stop posting for a while. And do a whole bunch of research. Everytime i get in an argument, i get proved wrong - so.....i'm going to just pause..... and relax for a while.....

 

Hey bro just remember we are not honda professionals....Like 90 percent of the people on h-t are here to learn. like myself. Sometimes comments like yours can knock someone down on learning how the things work. But you are right there are some funny *** **** ask sometimes. Just have to help them and laugh to yourself. You feel me....

 

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IMO you should look into some type of engine management, a well tuned engine can produce alot mor hp then a non tuned.
-B