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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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i ahve an accord aerodeck with h22a swap in it and with aut tranny from f22. but that thing is slow. i got something like 11 sec 0-60 mi. and vtec is working (i hear how sound is changing) but i have no changes in acceleration. what can be wrong?


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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:54 AM
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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auto f22 tranny really isnt helping. get a h22 5spd tranny
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 08:57 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by john d &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> </TD></TR></TABLE>

my thoughts exactly..

maybe you should:
-look up the gear ratios of your F22 tranny and compare them with an H22 tranny
-take into account that you loose oodles of power from the tq converter. (yes, oodles)
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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before swap with just f22 engine my car went 9.5-10 secs 0-60 mph. so i think i have to get somethink like 8.5-9 sec now with h22 swapped in but it slower than before.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:07 AM
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wheres your timing at? and is it set up properly. on the H22 5 speed
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:13 AM
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an auto can be 1 sec late from manual.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:17 AM
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my ignition timing is set right at shop. but now i think about cam timing. may be belt skiped a tooth... if belt skip one tooth will i get driveable car that will lack of power at top end? or it will be not driveable at all?
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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your tq converter could be slipping.....and the slipped tooth could explain it, im pretty sure it will run one tooth off....but im not 100% on that....
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by digihippie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my ignition timing is set right at shop. but now i think about cam timing. may be belt skiped a tooth... if belt skip one tooth will i get driveable car that will lack of power at top end? </TD></TR></TABLE>

YES! thats your friggin problem, slipping one tooth can change your cam timing a **** tone, that would be your problem, that and the fact your runing it thru an auto tranny, get atleast a 5speed m2f4
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:22 AM
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Are you sure vtec is kicking in.

The sound could just be the butterflies opening.
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:28 AM
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it'll run one tooth off with stock clearences, but it'll run like *** when vtec hits. I would definitly check out the cam timing, that's a hard thing to match up but it's critical
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 09:37 AM
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Yeah, get a timing gun on that thing as well.

BTW: No cussing in the Subject line
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Old Mar 31, 2005 | 10:11 AM
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thanks. tomorrow i will check cam timing and try to fix it if it will e wrong.

for a vtec sound - it's defenatly vtec, cos for now IABs are connected just to manifold with vacum line (without any control and so on) and vtec crossover i hear exactly at 5500 rpms
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 06:15 AM
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today checked the cam timing. it's ok.. i dont know what to do.... =/

it's happened after i've installed drag gen3 turbo kit on that engine. and if i remove blowoff valve and give air to leave intake before throttle body i checked 0-60 mph. 11 sec.. that's slow. and i defenatly didnt getting something from vtec
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 07:47 AM
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same happened with my prelude 96 i was losing from CRx he is 170 ATW and he has b16 and i had doubt that my car is getting slow and my friends said that i messed up my Vtec now i turbocharged it with Garret T-25 BB turbo and the turbo is not tuned yet to show the real performacne i will tune it now the boost is 7 to 8 psi
Help doGG
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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just checked. vtec defenatly work. why i have almost no power after vtec?
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 09:09 AM
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is it getting bad mpg? check your 02 sensor.
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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what o2 can do with 0-60 mph perfomance? it in open loop. it doesnt look at o2 at WOT. and yeah, i checked AFR with wideband o2. it stay at around 13-13.5 when i accelerate
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 01:53 PM
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just go get a jackson supercharge so you don't have to wait for vtec to kick-in. GEt all your power @ 3,000 rpm
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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j00 n33d T3h NAWWWWWWS!!!!!!111!!!on!!e!!!!1

Seriously though, the problem is the tranny that you have your H22 mated to. If there was really anything wrong internaly with the engine or anything like that, then you most likely would not be hitting Vtec, or even be able to rev past about 6k without the ecu giving you **** for it. And if your timing was off if would probably randomly stall and idle like ****.

Oh, and its in a gay Accord
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 04:38 PM
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an accord f22 auto on an h22a? jesus

where does 2nd gear end? 100mph? LOL
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Evil Nick M &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">an accord f22 auto an h22a? jesus

where does 2nd gear end? 100mph? LOL</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ha.. no wonder it doesn't run right..
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 07:13 PM
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so no one can help?

there is an accord with the same swap. h22a+f22 ato tranny. and vtec kicks more powerfull there.

i checked compression on engine and got 260-262-250-262. it's a little high..

i checked everything and engine still doesnt run right
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Old Apr 1, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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your losing power through the auto transmission like 20 people told you that...what esle do you wanna know that the auto tranny is magically goin to make your vtec kick in harder...auto tranny=poo cheeks.

I wont go as far as its cause you have the f22 tranny cause people with h22+f22 tranny manual run decent times...but lose the automatic man.
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