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Spade 06-11-2002 06:52 AM

I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket!
 
[RANT]This is irritating, everytime I start to research either a turbo or a supercharger, I hit a wall beacuse these guys decided to smog legalize there stuff for every Civic except the HX. Come on, how can you over look the lightest coupe in the fricken group!!![/RANT]

Spade who is about to just give up. But hoping Jackson racing will give him some decent news.

JaeOne3345 06-11-2002 06:56 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
thats because on your motor is designed to run in a lean burn cycle all the time. lean=not good

just get a sohc vtec EX head,intake,manifold,ecu,tranny, u will then have a EX motor, and then u can find so much more

Spade 06-11-2002 07:01 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 
I want to retain the roller rockers.

JaeOne3345 06-11-2002 07:03 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
but do u see what im saying..that cylinder head/ecu combo is made to run lean, its a high mpg engine. either u go vtec or non vtec..not vtec-e..thats my opinion

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:04 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
Or stop being cheap and buy a B motor, there i said it, why go through all the headaches? Might as well just milk the 40 + mpg while you save your gas money to buy the new engine. If not when i buy MY B engine ill sell you my old POS D16Z6 Thanks

Spade 06-11-2002 07:05 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 
Yes, I understand that and there is alo the thing where the "lean burn" goes away once the VTEC-E turns on.

AND even though I haven't verified the duration of both cams the HX has higher lift on it's cam on both the intake and exhaust then the EX.

Also, it is on the higher lift points (VTEC-E) at 3000 RPMs as apposed to 5500 like the EX.

EDIT: ROFLLMAO......I was just ranting guys. I have researched all the possiblities and I just refuse to accept the fact that I have to swap the engine........


[Modified by Spade, 8:06 AM 6/11/2002]

94HybridEX 06-11-2002 07:05 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 

Or stop being cheap and buy a B motor, there i said it, why go through all the headaches? Might as well just milk the 40 + mpg while you save your gas money to buy the new engine. If not when i buy MY B engine ill sell you my old POS D16Z6 Thanks
Tell him more about this "b-series" stuff....I don't think spade knows http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emhammer.gif

Spade 06-11-2002 07:07 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (94HybridEx)
 

Tell him more about this "b-series" stuff....I don't think spade knows http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emhammer.gif
ROFLLMAO........some may not..........

EDIT: Then again.....some may just be blind and not consider who they are speaking to.


[Modified by Spade, 8:07 AM 6/11/2002]

JaeOne3345 06-11-2002 07:08 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
no one said u have to swap the engine, just the head http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif

Spade 06-11-2002 07:09 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 

no one said u have to swap the engine, just the head http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmile.gif
Ah hah, but I never stated I have to swap the engine either http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif

ER I did.....dammit......


[Modified by Spade, 8:09 AM 6/11/2002]

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:09 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (94HybridEx)
 
Probably never heard of it. What do you think this is....Canada!

JaeOne3345 06-11-2002 07:10 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 
what are your goals?

Spade 06-11-2002 07:11 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 
95civiccoupe31,

If you have any questions on your "b series" let me know.....


Spade who 90% of the time will have the answer.

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:11 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
Ok not tryin to be a smart ass, but who wants a headache?

Spade 06-11-2002 07:12 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 

what are your goals?

TORQUE!!!! LOW END, Eat the tires for breakfast, lunch and dinner TORQUE.


JaeOne3345 06-11-2002 07:15 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 

Ok not tryin to be a smart ass, but who wants a headache?
well. if u r trynna say why build a sohc,, that sounds like a v8 person saying why build a 4 banger.

spade, i suggest u look into 88-89 a1 teg pistons, y8 headgasket, arp headbolts, y8 head,y8 manifold,ex tranny, a plus side with the sohc vtec is that u can idle and daily drive the biggest fuckin cams on the low cam profile, and have a monstrosity on the vtec lobes, be careful with valve clearances and the a1 pistons though. pick a fuel system of your choice, dyno dyno dyno, and lose some weight.

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:16 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
B18B1 or HX TURBO Baby!!

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:18 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 
not even gonna argue with you dude, i know what a sohc turbo is capable of, but its seems like a big headache.

Spade 06-11-2002 07:20 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (JaeOne3345)
 
HRM, interesting enough.....but, I forgot to mention one more thing......California Smog legal http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif If I don't change the block then they will smog it as a HX. http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emthdown.gif

Isn't this fun? ROFL.

I am starting to think about just buying a drag turbo and taking it off when I need to smog. HRM. TOO expensive.

If only my lazy ass would just go and talk to the smog ref and figure out if swapping the B20Z's intake manifold for an LS manifold is legal. Since that swap would be about the cost of a damn turbo or cheaper......hrm. Decisions decisions decisions.

fowler! 06-11-2002 07:20 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 
[evil voice of truth]SWAP THE ENGINE!!!![/evil voice of truth]

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:26 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (fowler)
 
NO SWAP!!! This is canada where we call our ex's si's!!! hehe or in spades case hx is a well....still an HX! hehe
V8 Power Baby!

Spade 06-11-2002 07:28 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 
http://images.zeroforum.com/smile/emsmilep.gif Funny, at least I don't have a 70 lb piece of glass over my head.

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:31 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
funny dude...the glass ITSELF only weighs roughly 20 lbs. the bracketry is where the weight is LMAO!!

Spade 06-11-2002 07:33 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (95civiccoupe31)
 
Okay but still I hate the lack of head room (6'1" here)

95civiccoupe31 06-11-2002 07:34 AM

Re: I am so sick of the HX being overlooked by the aftermarket! (Spade)
 
ok


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