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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 08:29 AM
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i lol'd @ OP and this thread.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by mcvtec
125hp vs 160hp doesn't make sense.


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Its the truth. A b16 has no low end or midrange power. So for daily driving it will feel like a Z6 unless you take it into VTEC all the time. In fact the Z6 has more low end than a B16 due to its 90mm stroke.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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Originally Posted by 1phatEG8
Okay so i have a 95' civic and i've had alot of arguments about how much horsepower i have.
I realize the only way too know for sure is to Dyno it, but to be realistic, i'm not going to
have the money to do that any time soon & furthermore i don't think it would be worth it
unless you have 200+ HP. If i had to guess i would say 170-180, but i could be way off,
so please help me out & give me your honest opinion. thanks

Here's my mods...

D16Z6
^ This is where I stopped reading..
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by z6htch
There is no way in hell you beat any b series with the bullshit mods you have. My jdm b16 eg hatch ran a 15.3 at the track grinding 3rd and no 5th! And you can beat me running a 16.4

You sir are a bad ***. Congratulations.
y so negative? not like a "ls teggy" is anything special not to hard to beat, dont see why youd say theres no way in hell he couldnt beat one, and btw correct me if im wrong but i dont think ud need 5th gear running a 15.3 anyway, so my point is quit being so negative, this is the reason i never post in this forum because i know my posts will be pulled apart and get negative responces
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05
Ditch those MSD crap. OEM's are way more reliable.

MSD, will just cause you more headache.
i believe i once read msd blaster coils are good for 45,000 volts, and out stock honda coils are good for 60,000... do i remember right??
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:47 AM
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every forum has one of these threads . . . . i love that the first thread i read on the forum once now registered is this.


i may have to go digging through the fail pictures to a lot of the responses on here!
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by freeagent
torqueless wonder or not, they are still weak *** ****.
and yes the d16 is probly a rotating pile of ****, all im saying is neither of them will be fast without forced induction or compleltly built, a b16 running 15s is not fast either,
and really a mustang running low fourteens is not fast,
but to each there own i guess
its not like i'm trying to say 14's or 15's are fast, but it's a hell of a lot quicker than running 16's or worse. i mean consider what these cars generally run stock, especially if you're starting with a d15b7. to go even from a 17 second car into the high 14's is a huge difference. also, not that i'm trying to stick up for the b16, because yes they lack torque big time, my friend in his eg hatch was able to pull off a 14.5. which i think is pretty respectable. and yes i agree that if you want to make any kind of fast times at the track, then you need to build a heck of an n/a motor, or run some boost.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:03 PM
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B16's arent really that fast. And a B16 would only really feel like a night and day difference if your coming from a D15B7 or a B8 CX motor. A turbo D feels like a night and day difference between any stock motor swap that is available. Unless its a J35 :X
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 12:38 PM
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to those who are talking crap, cut those of us who don't know what were doing some slack. im new here and i don't know much either but well learn
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 01:47 PM
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Originally Posted by aeschbi277
to those who are talking crap, cut those of us who don't know what were doing some slack. im new here and i don't know much either but well learn
That's why you research before buying a whole bunch of junk that doesn't help out your car, but ruin it.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 02:50 PM
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nub thread is nubby.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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boost it
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by CRX-Kid11
y so negative? not like a "ls teggy" is anything special not to hard to beat, dont see why youd say theres no way in hell he couldnt beat one, and btw correct me if im wrong but i dont think ud need 5th gear running a 15.3 anyway, so my point is quit being so negative, this is the reason i never post in this forum because i know my posts will be pulled apart and get negative responces
I said my comment earlier b/c I hate liars and people who bullshit. He is obviously lying out his *******.

And actually at the 1/4 mile mark, my car tops out in 4th at 7.2k b/c of my p28, so I could of shifted into 5th to help slow the car down instead of throwing it into neutral at 90mph.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:46 PM
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Originally Posted by azandford
i dont believe you beat a b16 unless it was driven by a man with one arm
with only a left arm. lol
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:50 PM
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Originally Posted by z6htch
There is no way in hell you beat any b series with the bullshit mods you have. My jdm b16 eg hatch ran a 15.3 at the track grinding 3rd and no 5th! And you can beat me running a 16.4

You sir are a bad ***. Congratulations.
alright stupid I have a 89 crx w/d16z6 w/p28 stock ecu and harness.Its bone stock engine w/short ram intake w/k&n filter and header 4 2 1 and my fastest time was 15.8 so get over it.I have smoked several Ls's and a couple stock b16's.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05
That's why you research before buying a whole bunch of junk that doesn't help out your car, but ruin it.
actually MSD is better you can set your rev limit higher like 8000 rpm so if you dont shift exactly at 7800 rpm you can still hit your next gear without loseing any time on the 1/4 mile. (missing a gear) and you can add a 2 step
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 20-EM2-05
All that bolt ons and you are still running 16.4? That's like my stock 05 Civic EX AUTOMATIC running a 1/4. Did I mention it was an auto and that D17A2 is only VTEC-E.

You should be running atleast 16 flat or even a 15.8 with those I/H/E.

No way you can even come close to B series, and yet a 3000GT.

Maybe they just let off the foot peddle, because that's what I always do when I reach 90+ and they are still flooring it like they are being chased by the cops.
I was with him and helped work on his car .I was driving at the track the night we smoked a peace of **** 3000gt,a a/t 240 hatch and we smoked a boosted hyundai tiberon that was running shity
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:16 PM
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ha
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by CRX-boy
actually MSD is better you can set your rev limit higher like 8000 rpm so if you dont shift exactly at 7800 rpm you can still hit your next gear without loseing any time on the 1/4 mile. (missing a gear) and you can add a 2 step
no its not. its all crap, its not nessacary for mods such as his.
you can set rev limiter to 8k with a chipped ecu and 2 step, and i very highly doubt your can miss a gear and not loose anytime, thats saying the bull **** msd setup makes him a better shifter and i insure it does not!
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:45 PM
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with out a tune that stuff is only worth nearly 15-20whp. You only have four bolt ons that would increase power, and they are on a stock ecu. maybe 140 at the crank minus drivetrain losses, I'd say about 110whp. Nowhere near a B. B18C1 stock runs 137.5whp on a Mustang Dyno.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:46 PM
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obviously you have never raced at a 1/4 mile.If you have then you dont know ****.
Too mister MSD/D-series hater

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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:48 PM
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However i did see car setups like yours at MIDOHIO race course in a stripped CRX and kick the pants off most everything out there, vettes and porsches included.
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Originally Posted by S2Integra
with out a tune that stuff is only worth nearly 15-20whp. You only have four bolt ons that would increase power, and they are on a stock ecu. maybe 140 at the crank minus drivetrain losses, I'd say about 110whp. Nowhere near a B. B18C1 stock runs 137.5whp on a Mustang Dyno.
its not 110WHP. A stock D series should put down about 107WHP. Since the drivetrain loss is somewhere between 13-15%. So I doubt 4 mods gave him 3WHP.
Old Mar 28, 2010 | 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 98civdx
no its not. its all crap, its not nessacary for mods such as his.
you can set rev limiter to 8k with a chipped ecu and 2 step, and i very highly doubt your can miss a gear and not loose anytime, thats saying the bull **** msd setup makes him a better shifter and i insure it does not!
actually its called redlining and your gay.
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MSD wires does not add horsepower. there spark plug wires are design for withstanding more abuse. There coils and ignition boxes may, but they focus on burning all the fuel. If your engine already does a good job, than you won't see a jump in power. It is a little more noticeable on high powersetups though. And they do NOT have honda quality. I have much experience in that.



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