GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (Jeterkm02)
The only time you'll notice a difference in the way your engine runs is if it's not been maintained properly, and there is a lot of gunk build up. By removing it, you will make the car run better, and possibly improve milage by a bit.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (AutoXer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only time you'll notice a difference in the way your engine runs is if it's not been maintained properly, and there is a lot of gunk build up. By removing it, you will make the car run better, and possibly improve milage by a bit.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.
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Exactly what I was getting at. Yes, this is a great maintenance measure, but it's no better for your car than changing your plugs, cap and wires.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.
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Exactly what I was getting at. Yes, this is a great maintenance measure, but it's no better for your car than changing your plugs, cap and wires.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (AutoXer)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AutoXer »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only time you'll notice a difference in the way your engine runs is if it's not been maintained properly, and there is a lot of gunk build up. By removing it, you will make the car run better, and possibly improve milage by a bit.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Carbon all around you sidewalls will cause it to not fire smoothly and properly, which is why removing it increases horsepower. The proof is that i have done it and many people i know have, and all agree their car is noticable faster.
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.
When I used seafoam at 90K, my motor was sparkling clean before and after. By removing the carbon, I lowered my compression (I measured it) and did decrease my horsepower (barely measureable).
It was such a small difference, that it was a barely repeatable result; which means that statistically nothing happened. Would it make so much of a difference that you're blowing by people? I highly doubt it. You can gain or loose 5hp just from a change in weather, and that doesn't make that significant of a difference, and I'm sure seafoming wouldn't make more of a difference than that.
The reason why everyone is jumping on you, is that you're making a claim with no evidence at all. If you had something to support it, great, but otherwise you shouldn't go around making false claims or spreading mis-information; as there is all too much of it on this board.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Carbon all around you sidewalls will cause it to not fire smoothly and properly, which is why removing it increases horsepower. The proof is that i have done it and many people i know have, and all agree their car is noticable faster.
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (drumminforev)
And on that claim about the weather....obviously their car will have the SAME positive or negative effect from weather that my car is, having raced the SAME cars one day, and the SAME car another day.
Its not like only my car would benefit from the weather change....damn what are u thinking.
Its not like only my car would benefit from the weather change....damn what are u thinking.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (drumminforev)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Carbon all around you sidewalls will cause it to not fire smoothly and properly, which is why removing it increases horsepower. The proof is that i have done it and many people i know have, and all agree their car is noticable faster.
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your proof is all your friends notice their car is faster...come on, that is no proof at all...your still arguing with everyone yet you still have no proof of this actually gaining hp.
He is not talking any ****, he is telling you his experience with it..infact he is backing you up a little bit and your jumping all over him.
Carbon all around you sidewalls will cause it to not fire smoothly and properly, which is why removing it increases horsepower. The proof is that i have done it and many people i know have, and all agree their car is noticable faster.
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your proof is all your friends notice their car is faster...come on, that is no proof at all...your still arguing with everyone yet you still have no proof of this actually gaining hp.
He is not talking any ****, he is telling you his experience with it..infact he is backing you up a little bit and your jumping all over him.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (KoLRaNcH)
One of the first thing i posted was no flamers. Seriously, and look what i get.
If you dont believe it too bad, stop posting in my thread. This is for those serious about cars maintenance. I do not have to proove it to anyone its faster, i know it and thats all that matters. Just go away if you dont believe it. You are making everyone skeptical about using a perfectly safe and effective product.
If you dont believe it too bad, stop posting in my thread. This is for those serious about cars maintenance. I do not have to proove it to anyone its faster, i know it and thats all that matters. Just go away if you dont believe it. You are making everyone skeptical about using a perfectly safe and effective product.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (drumminforev)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never said it wouldn't benefit someones car, and I never said my car was new. It has 150K on the clock, and I used seafoam at 90K. On the contrary, I think seafoam has great benifits as a regular maintenance tool, and have used it on my friends cars. What I did say was that by removing the carbon in my engine lowered my compression; which would lead to a decrease in Hp, and I did the tests to show it.
You're confusing two seperate issues and getting OT by all this stuff with your friends, and motors running better. Plain and simple, you said it guaranteed more horsepower, with no proof; while in my motor, I showed a very slight lowering in compression, and no difference in Hp (statistically). I wasn't flaming, just stating a fact.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is no way anyone is going to feel a 5hp difference in their car; and that's a stretch for the benifit in hp gains that I could ever imagine coming from an engine cleaning product. That's not to say that seafoam doesn't work or provide benefit, just not in the way you're claiming.
Why do you care if i help people fix their car. THERE IS NO QUESTION ABOUT IT...SEAFOAM WILL BENEFIT YOUR CAR.
If you dont want to, just dont do it. Dont talk **** just because you dont know how to use seafoam, or because your car is already sparkling clean. Obviously if you car is brand new, it wont do ****.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I never said it wouldn't benefit someones car, and I never said my car was new. It has 150K on the clock, and I used seafoam at 90K. On the contrary, I think seafoam has great benifits as a regular maintenance tool, and have used it on my friends cars. What I did say was that by removing the carbon in my engine lowered my compression; which would lead to a decrease in Hp, and I did the tests to show it.
You're confusing two seperate issues and getting OT by all this stuff with your friends, and motors running better. Plain and simple, you said it guaranteed more horsepower, with no proof; while in my motor, I showed a very slight lowering in compression, and no difference in Hp (statistically). I wasn't flaming, just stating a fact.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I dont need to get on a dyno to know my car is faster. If you need to, then your senses are failing you, or you just dont understand your car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There is no way anyone is going to feel a 5hp difference in their car; and that's a stretch for the benifit in hp gains that I could ever imagine coming from an engine cleaning product. That's not to say that seafoam doesn't work or provide benefit, just not in the way you're claiming.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (RockLee`)
I did the 1/3 oil cap, 1/3 gas tank, 1/3 brake booster method on my '89 STD a little over a year ago and didn't notice any difference in HP, idle, or mileage. The change was probably too little to notice, but the damn thing smoked like a frieght train when I ran it through the engine.
I'll probably give it another shot on my CL with 123k miles right before the next oil change.
I'll probably give it another shot on my CL with 123k miles right before the next oil change.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (Blazin Si)
ok i have a question every1 here has around 100k and it seems to work fine but i have 298k miles on my coupe this will expletive up my motor wouldnt it because the only thing keeping it sealed is the ccarbon deposits right now? idk hasnt been maintined very well by previous owner oil leaked when i got it replaced all gaskets...it overheated so i flushed radiator....made fan turn back on via blown fuse.............but do u think it would expletive up my car with almost 300k on the clock? just want an opnion im going to go canyon tomorrow night @ local races and im doing a shitload right now.....hood...sidemarkers...painted calipers..new pads...bleed brake lines....oil change...new coolant....spark plugs...wires...cap and rotor....resurface rotors.....and i was thinking about this **** for my car....canyon running needs more maintance than drag racing significantly
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (n20_b1tch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n20_b1tch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i have a question every1 here has around 100k and it seems to work fine but i have 298k miles on my coupe this will expletive up my motor wouldnt it because the only thing keeping it sealed is the ccarbon deposits right now? idk hasnt been maintined very well by previous owner oil leaked when i got it replaced all gaskets...it overheated so i flushed radiator....made fan turn back on via blown fuse.............but do u think it would expletive up my car with almost 300k on the clock? just want an opnion im going to go canyon tomorrow night @ local races and im doing a shitload right now.....hood...sidemarkers...painted calipers..new pads...bleed brake lines....oil change...new coolant....spark plugs...wires...cap and rotor....resurface rotors.....and i was thinking about this **** for my car....canyon running needs more maintance than drag racing significantly </TD></TR></TABLE>
Just go for it dude!
You'll feel VTAK p0ppin like no tomorrow
lol
Just go for it dude!
You'll feel VTAK p0ppin like no tomorrowlol
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (n20_b1tch)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by n20_b1tch »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok i have a question every1 here has around 100k and it seems to work fine but i have 298k miles on my coupe this will expletive up my motor wouldnt it because the only thing keeping it sealed is the ccarbon deposits right now? idk hasnt been maintined very well by previous owner oil leaked when i got it replaced all gaskets...it overheated so i flushed radiator....made fan turn back on via blown fuse.............but do u think it would expletive up my car with almost 300k on the clock? just want an opnion im going to go canyon tomorrow night @ local races and im doing a shitload right now.....hood...sidemarkers...painted calipers..new pads...bleed brake lines....oil change...new coolant....spark plugs...wires...cap and rotor....resurface rotors.....and i was thinking about this **** for my car....canyon running needs more maintance than drag racing significantly </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (SkoundrelUSA)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkoundrelUSA »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Just go for it dude! You'll feel VTAK p0ppin like no tomorrow
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haha
Just go for it dude!
You'll feel VTAK p0ppin like no tomorrowlol</TD></TR></TABLE>
haha
Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (drumminforev)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ricey McRicerton »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
You're kidding yourself if you don't think most shops know what Seafoam is. This isn't some new technology that you just stumbled across. I've been using it for almost 8 years now and my dad has been using it longer than that.
I'll also guarantee you that you're using the butt dyno to "prove" that you gained HP. If you did, it was minimal and you can't feel it. You're going on a placebo effect.
You need to change the oil after you do this. I didn't see you mention that anywhere.
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oh i love that, LOL i love that, i got your back
You're kidding yourself if you don't think most shops know what Seafoam is. This isn't some new technology that you just stumbled across. I've been using it for almost 8 years now and my dad has been using it longer than that.
I'll also guarantee you that you're using the butt dyno to "prove" that you gained HP. If you did, it was minimal and you can't feel it. You're going on a placebo effect.
You need to change the oil after you do this. I didn't see you mention that anywhere.
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oh i love that, LOL i love that, i got your back
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (drumminforev)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by drumminforev »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">One of the first thing i posted was no flamers. Seriously, and look what i get.
If you dont believe it too bad, stop posting in my thread. This is for those serious about cars maintenance. I do not have to proove it to anyone its faster, i know it and thats all that matters. Just go away if you dont believe it. You are making everyone skeptical about using a perfectly safe and effective product. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahahaha <gasp> ahahahahahah <thud>
Nobody here is saying not to use Seafoam or that it's going to hurt anything. We ARE saying that it's not this magical toss it in the motor and have a brand new longblock product you're trying to make it out to be. You're not going to get more than a few hp back (if any), which you can't feel on the butt dyno. You aren't going to see any improvement in 1/4 mile times or anything else. It's placebo.
If you dont believe it too bad, stop posting in my thread. This is for those serious about cars maintenance. I do not have to proove it to anyone its faster, i know it and thats all that matters. Just go away if you dont believe it. You are making everyone skeptical about using a perfectly safe and effective product. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Hahahahaha <gasp> ahahahahahah <thud>
Nobody here is saying not to use Seafoam or that it's going to hurt anything. We ARE saying that it's not this magical toss it in the motor and have a brand new longblock product you're trying to make it out to be. You're not going to get more than a few hp back (if any), which you can't feel on the butt dyno. You aren't going to see any improvement in 1/4 mile times or anything else. It's placebo.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by martinscott »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">seafoam? never tried it, but i prefer the Ferrari tuneup method. nothing cuts carbon better thn heat.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Elaborate. I've never heard of this before.
Elaborate. I've never heard of this before.
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Elaborate. I've never heard of this before. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That means run the crap out of the motor.
Elaborate. I've never heard of this before. </TD></TR></TABLE>
That means run the crap out of the motor.
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Re: GUARANTEED way to increase your horsepower in 10 minutes!... Seafoam (AutoXer)
I am not argueing for or against the use of this product, but I am agrueing the false claims of increased power with the use of this product. You have no data or testing to validate your claims, so please don't make them.
The buildup of carbon in the flow paths (ie head and exhaust) alters the volumetric effeciency of the motor by make subtle changes in head, chamber and port geometry. These changes in the VE can play minds games with the butt-dyno, not to mention that the human body cannot "feel" HP because its a derivative of time. The bottom line is the butt-dyno is unrealiable and that seems to be your only justicfication for power incrrease.
I have seen several 10, 15+ year old cars (stock) make more power on a dyno than they are rated at from the factory. I can only attribute this to the build up of carbon increasing the CR and altering the motors VE.
The buildup of carbon in the flow paths (ie head and exhaust) alters the volumetric effeciency of the motor by make subtle changes in head, chamber and port geometry. These changes in the VE can play minds games with the butt-dyno, not to mention that the human body cannot "feel" HP because its a derivative of time. The bottom line is the butt-dyno is unrealiable and that seems to be your only justicfication for power incrrease.
I have seen several 10, 15+ year old cars (stock) make more power on a dyno than they are rated at from the factory. I can only attribute this to the build up of carbon increasing the CR and altering the motors VE.