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DEL-SLOW 1994 09-23-2017 06:54 PM

Del sol turbo z6 build
 
hey everyone, I'm going to be doing a build on my del sol over the winter and spring. I bought the car completely stock back in January so here is my build plans css block, forged pistons, The new speed factory rods or Manley rods, built head, arps, King bearings, skunk 2 Intake manifold, Percision 5531 turbo cast manifold 3 inch downpipe tail wastegate and bov ATI damper more to come later here's some pics up till now..

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-23-2017 07:11 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
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DEL-SLOW 1994 09-23-2017 07:15 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
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DEL-SLOW 1994 09-23-2017 07:17 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
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DEL-SLOW 1994 09-23-2017 07:23 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
That's how it was for a little while, then wanted to go k swap so I sold the swap and kit. Just to turn around and build a z6 that's where I'm at now current time. I'll get some pictures of the car how it's sits tomorrow.

tony_2018 09-24-2017 05:15 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
Got a parts list and price total on the build?

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-24-2017 07:21 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
I do ill post it up very soon.

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-24-2017 08:59 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
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DEL-SLOW 1994 09-24-2017 09:01 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
This is how it looks as of today, I'll post my build list up tomorrow with my budget. Please feel free to comment,

2x0 09-25-2017 01:43 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
Hey the sol looks like it's come a long way already. Will follow :thumbup:

Just so I understand, you bought the car stock less than a year ago, already boosted the D series and did all those other upgrades, and now will be building the engine and upgrading the turbo setup?

Why not go B series while you're at it?

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 10:34 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 

Originally Posted by 2x0 (Post 51421029)
Hey the sol looks like it's come a long way already. Will follow :thumbup:

Just so I understand, you bought the car stock less than a year ago, already boosted the D series and did all those other upgrades, and now will be building the engine and upgrading the turbo setup?

Why not go B series while you're at it?

I just love the d16z6 people underestimate them. i just love the feeling of beating k swap and gsr swaps with a single cam

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 10:47 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
ok heres the build list.


block
d16z6 block with css.
speed factory rods or manley rods.
cp or arias pistons 9.5.1
moroso oil pan
oem Honda oil pump
oem Honda water pump
oem Honda head gasket
oem main cap bolts new I got a new set because I lost one
oem seals and gaskets
arp head studs
Oem rod bearings
Oem main bearings
Oem thrust washers
ati super damper( crank pulley)
oem Honda timing belt / tensioner.

head
d16z6 head
skunk 2 intake manifold
skunk 2 68mm throttle body
hondata intake and throttle body gaskets
valves and springs over sized not sure what brand yet please comment
level 2.4 bisimoto cam
port and polish.

transmission
b7 long gear trans
mfactory lsd
comp clutch stage 4
comp light weight fly wheel
arp pressure plate bolts and fly wheel bolts...



that's all I have so far still deciding on ecu,fuel, and turbo kit

2x0 09-25-2017 12:01 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
Looks like a nice build list. How much power do you hope to make and with what fuel? That looks like a badass cam...

Only things I would do different is run 10.5 or 11:1 compression, and use oem bearings.

I agree with you on the Z6, I also love the SOHC for a quick daily or street car. Going DOHC just makes more sense dollar per hp, which is more important to most people.

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 12:17 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
E85, going 9.5.1 for a little more safety. I was looking a id 1000 injectors. 300 to 500 hp

CandyRedRC46 09-25-2017 12:51 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
The Bisimoto 3.6 is a H U G E race cam, that seems to be out of the realm of this build/parts list. I would take it down a notch.

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 12:53 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 

Originally Posted by CandyRedRC46 (Post 51422102)
The Bisimoto 3.6 is a H U G E race cam, that seems to be out of the realm of this build/parts list. I would take it down a notch.

Would you care to elaborate more on that subject

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 12:57 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
I was looking at the level 2.4 as well

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 12:58 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
What do you all think about king bearings Xp's

2x0 09-25-2017 02:33 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 

Originally Posted by DEL-SLOW 1994 (Post 51422043)
E85, going 9.5.1 for a little more safety. I was looking a id 1000 injectors. 300 to 500 hp

1000's will be good for maybe 400whp with an efficient setup on e85. If you want room to grow, go bigger. Plan on at least a Walbro 255 pump and upgraded lines to handle the e85. Hondata S300 for management.

Ive read about the 3.6 cam. Due to the lift and duration, p2v clearance are tight, and usually you gotta machine the valves. :scared:

Not sure if that's more an issue on dohc tho.

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 02:45 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 

Originally Posted by 2x0 (Post 51422189)
1000's will be good for maybe 400whp with an efficient setup on e85. If you want room to grow, go bigger. Plan on at least a Walbro 255 pump and upgraded lines to handle the e85. Hondata S300 for management.

Ive read about the 3.6 cam. Due to the lift and duration, v2v and p2v clearance are tight, and usually you gotta machine the valves. :scared:


I have a 255 already from when I did the first turbo kit. going with the 2.4 lol

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-25-2017 02:56 PM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
so who would like to see some pics of my d16z6 block before I sent it off to jeff a cnc werks for the css?????:yas:

CandyRedRC46 09-26-2017 04:43 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
The bisimoto 3.6 is such an aggressive cam that the head itself may require clearancing for the large lobes to clear, as well as special care to p2v and v2v clearances. Further more 9.5:1 compression is fairly low for a cam that big especially when running ethanol. Also you would need extensive porting to take advantage of that cam's specs and would want to go +76mm with oversize valves (but oversize valves may make contact with each other, so valves might need to stay stock). The 3.6 is going to be very inefficient until very high revs, basically the 2.4 will spool the turbo sooner and produce more power and torque everywhere until over almost 9000 rpms, but this is where your cast manifold/relatively small turbo/average skunk intake etc will start to run out of breath and your poor choice of bearings will more than likely fail. Do some more research. Bearings need to be precisely spec'd and mic'd for a d series to stay together at these rpms and power levels and this is why oem bearings were recommended, as they are color coded for specific sizing.....

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-26-2017 04:57 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
Ive done a fair bit of Research on the bearings, Do you have anything negative to say about the king race bearings? And by the way this is not the 1st motor ive built.I'm just not gonna spend $800 on a golden Eagle manifold And the skunk 2 with proper porting will flow well.

CandyRedRC46 09-26-2017 04:58 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
1995 Honda Civic - Camshaft Shootout - Super Street Magazine

Good comparison on cams, though out dated. Are you sure that you can still purchase Bisimoto parts? Have you looked into Rocket motorsports?

DEL-SLOW 1994 09-26-2017 05:21 AM

Re: Del sol turbo z6 build
 
I just check his website as far as i can tell you can. Ive looked at the old cam shootout a while back good info in it for sure. I haven't ill take a look. The reason im running a log manifold it to keep ac.


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