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dgmorr 07-17-2005 12:39 PM

Auto to Manual conversion, Reverse light
 
Hi there,

I recently bought my first Civic. It is a DX Hatch and so far it's been great. My only problem is that the reverse lights are not working. I checked the fuse in the driver-side fuse box, and it is still good. The swap was not done by me. Is there some sort of sensor that I have to have so that the reverse lights will come on? Please let me know and what parts are required, thanks.

dgmorr 07-17-2005 12:55 PM

Someone sent me this message, but I am not able to reply;

there are 2 wires in a connector going to the tranny just run those 2 wires and wire them up in the center wiring plug that the automatic selector was plugged in. Hope that makes sense

Where do I find that wire? Should I look under the hood or near my shifter somewhere?

Russ713 07-17-2005 01:14 PM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dgmorr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone sent me this message, but I am not able to reply;

there are 2 wires in a connector going to the tranny just run those 2 wires and wire them up in the center wiring plug that the automatic selector was plugged in. Hope that makes sense

Where do I find that wire? Should I look under the hood or near my shifter somewhere?</TD></TR></TABLE>


Just follow the wires that should've plugged in the reverse light selector on the tranny. Did your auto have more than one harness going to the tranny? I know the manuals have a single plug apart from the rest to engage the reverse lights.

dgmorr 07-17-2005 01:24 PM

What does the reverse light selector on the tranny look like?

Under the hood, the only wires that I can see going into the tranny are also connected to some sensor in the headers.

Russ713 07-17-2005 02:10 PM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
well there should be a speed sensor, plug with three wires on the upper side closer to the firewall. There should also be another smaller plug closer to the passenger headlight side of the tranny. The one closer to the headlight is the reverse harness.

dgmorr 07-18-2005 05:07 AM

I'm still not sure which one it is. I'll snap up a pic in a few minutes, maybe someone can point it out.

dgmorr 07-18-2005 06:23 AM

Here is a picture of the plug I was talking about. Is this the right one? And if so, how do I hook it up?

http://www.dgmorr.com/files/Car/DSCF0082.JPG

92ehatch 07-18-2005 07:00 AM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
[off topic] is it just me or is ur air cone rusted, dirty, and tearing a bit at the bottom?[/off topic]

dont you hate it when people do stuff and dont do it correctly, then you buy the car and you have to fix their skrew up

dgmorr 07-19-2005 05:57 AM

Anyone have an answer?

Yeah, I know what you mean about people not doing it right. So far I have only noticed the reverse light, and that fact that I can start the car without clutching.

Help?

I only have 4 more posts for today.

Dwight Schrute 07-19-2005 07:59 AM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
you have to hook up a clutch safety switch for it to only start with the clutch pressed

MugenHonda 07-19-2005 09:26 AM

Re: (drewthomas14)
 
damn, and i thought my auto to manual swap was ghetto, your's is worse, in regards to the above, those two wires is the reverse.
You have a big harness and a small harness in the middler of the dash, well you should anyways, and it is pin out 1 and 13 that those two green wires should be wired to i believe

HondaFanatic708 07-19-2005 09:36 AM

Re: (MugenHonda)
 
My factory service manual just shows the wires going to the backup lights, nothing about what clips they run through or anything. All I do know is it is grren all the wa back. I would suggest going to the service department at your local Honda dealer and ask them to allow you to make copies of a few pages of the ETM(Electrical troubleshooting manual) for your car. Most dealers are nice enough to allow the common Joe to do this. Otherwise tell em you work for the local Acura dealer and you just need some quick info on a car you have in service.

Oh duh, the green wire should be somewhere around the shifter area since on the auto it was controlled from the AT gear position selector.. Thats all the help I can provide for now. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

dgmorr 07-19-2005 06:04 PM

So what do I connect those green wires to???

HondaFanatic708 07-20-2005 09:50 AM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
The ones from the sensor under hood will connect to the wires you will most likely find in the shifter area as I mentioned since this would be where the signal should come from in the AUTO. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

dgmorr 07-20-2005 11:12 AM

And those shold be somehow plugged in to the reverse light relay I imagine?

dgmorr 07-20-2005 11:46 AM

Ok, I found a bunch of cut wires in the center console area, no harness. What colour wires do I attatch the Green wires from the tranny to?

dgmorr 07-20-2005 08:44 PM

Ok, I found the cut ends where the plug used to be. So far I have only been able to make the reverse light stay on. I connected the Green/Blk and Yellow wires together. The lights stay on. What colour am I supposed to connect to what? Please help, I am ALMOST there!

I found this wiring diagram, but I can't figure it out properly. I have traced the Yellow and Green wires. How do I connect them and to what do I connect them? Please help, this is frustrating.

http://www.honda.co.uk/owner/C...7.pdf

Anyone?

dgmorr 07-21-2005 05:53 AM

Come on, someone knows the answer.

HondaFanatic708 07-21-2005 10:03 AM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
If you look at the schematic, the yellow wire goes to the relay. The green wire goes to the green wire that feeds the reverse lights. That should do it..

dgmorr 07-21-2005 10:11 AM

Yeah, I figured that, but I don' t know which wire goes to the relay. Any ideas?

MugenHonda 07-21-2005 01:49 PM

Re: Auto to Manual conversion, Reverse light (dgmorr)
 
if you have a ex harness, it should plug and play into the auto harness and match up

dgmorr 07-21-2005 08:32 PM

I don't have any harnesses. The ends are just cut.

Anyone know what colour hooks up to what?

HalfAnP 07-21-2005 09:20 PM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
Ok dude here goes:

It sounds like the previous owner liked his work done poorly. Let me see if I can help you, this is the way I did it.

In the engine bay, locate the back up light swich on the trany. Its at about the centerline of the transmission as you look at it from the front; it should be covered with a black boot, have two wires coming out of it terminating at a 2 pin connector. What I did here was mate this plug with the existing plug for the lock-up torque converter solenoids, they plug right into each other. This way, I didnlt have to run any wires from the engine compartment into the cabin.

I don't exactly remember whar color the wires for the lock up torque converter were but any service manual can tell you. Now, youlre going to find these wires at the ecu plug (make SURE that you have the correct wires) and cut them, as you no longer need the ecu to control a lcktq conv. Splice a some more wire in to extend these two so that they reach the plug at the old auto shifter. You can run them under the carpet.

Now, at the plug where you old AT shifter sat, locate the green/black wires, there should be two of them. Connect these two wires together and then to one of the two wires you previously extended.

The one leftover wire goes to a constant 12v source. I'm sorry, this is where my memory fails me. I forger which color the correct wire is. But again, any service manual ought to tell you. If you have a helms, just compare the a/t and m/t back up light circuit diagrams and you'll know what to do. That's how I figured it out.


dgmorr 07-22-2005 06:02 AM

Thanks, that is very detailed. I'll have to get to it later today and try again.

Yes, this wire job was pretty much a hack job. I found what appears to be the parking safety switch just stripped, twisted together and left bare!

HondaFanatic708 07-22-2005 10:54 AM

Re: (dgmorr)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dgmorr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks, that is very detailed. I'll have to get to it later today and try again.

Yes, this wire job was pretty much a hack job. I found what appears to be the parking safety switch just stripped, twisted together and left bare!</TD></TR></TABLE>https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emhammer.gif what a dumb ass!!! At least you know bare wires are no good. I think the vehicle is in better hands now, just take care of her ok?? https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif


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