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ChumbusBees 07-10-2019 04:58 AM

1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
The car won't send power to the fuel pump while cold. If I start it with starter fluid, the problem is fixed for the day.

Quick list of things I've done trying to fix this.

-replaced fuel pump and filter

-pulled injectors and cleaned them

-replaced main relay. Yesterday it wouldn't start at all on the old relay, but it fired right up with the new one.

This is my first car I've worked on. At this point it's just absurd. I'm pretty much totally stuck.

muellersfan 07-10-2019 06:33 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
Sounds like a bad ECU. If so, you can either replace the ECU or the ECU electrolytic capacitors.

Start by opening the ECU to inspect the printed circuit board. A swollen or leaking capacitor is generally a bad capacitor. You can also desolder the capacitors and measure their capacitance with some types of multimeters.

ChumbusBees 07-10-2019 07:10 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
Good thought. I looked up how to reset it on a whim. Fuses are out now, just gotta wait for 10 minutes apparantly.

Can you help me out with the location of the ecu? I know it's behind the glovebox, but I don't know how to proceed.

muellersfan 07-10-2019 07:15 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
ECU is behind the passenger kick panel.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...78b86f4bd3.jpg

ChumbusBees 07-10-2019 07:24 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
Reset actually worked! Praise Jeebus, there was no way I could afford an ECU. Thank you so much.

muellersfan 07-10-2019 09:11 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 

Originally Posted by ChumbusBees (Post 51968098)
Reset actually worked! Praise Jeebus, there was no way I could afford an ECU. Thank you so much.

I hope you are right, but problem will likely recur.

ChumbusBees 07-10-2019 09:39 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
I will be on alert.

muellersfan 07-10-2019 09:51 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 

Originally Posted by ChumbusBees (Post 51968297)
I will be on alert.

Best of luck!

ChumbusBees 07-11-2019 10:08 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
Of course that didn't work. If it's the ECU, then the car is basically scrap metal to me. Starting to hate this wonderful little car.

ChumbusBees 07-11-2019 11:02 AM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...a946d830d7.jpg
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...6d486fdb1d.jpg
If there is something wrong with it, it's not visible

muellersfan 07-11-2019 12:43 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 

Originally Posted by ChumbusBees (Post 51969189)
Of course that didn't work. If it's the ECU, then the car is basically scrap metal to me. Starting to hate this wonderful little car.

The cost of an electrolytic capacitor, which generally go bad to cause the type of problem you are having, literally cost pennies.

DaX 07-11-2019 12:51 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
If you don't feel up to the task of replacing the capacitors yourself, you can send it to Hondata and they will do it for $50.

ChumbusBees 07-11-2019 12:55 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
Well at least I have an idea what it is.

muellersfan 07-11-2019 12:56 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
I circled examples of electrolytic capacitors in your ECU. Inspect all of them for swelling (generally at the top) and/or leakage (generally at the bottom). Any of these abnormalities indicate a bad capacitor.

However, not all bad capacitors can be identified by inspection. In this case, you need to desolder them from the printed circuit board and measure their capacitance. Some multimeters are able to measure capacitance, but make sure the capacitance rating is not higher than the micro-farad limit of the multimeter.

I believe that one of the two capacitors marked by an asterisk controls the fuel pump.

Watch some YouTube videos on desoldering and resoldering capacitors on a printed circuit boards (PCB). It's easier than you think.

I buy replacement capacitors here:

https://www.mouser.com/

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/honda-t...8e0f7b20b1.jpg

ChumbusBees 07-11-2019 01:00 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 
I guess I'll post back here when I have a soldering iron then.

edit: found the 2 bad capacitors. They have corrosion on the board stemming from them.

muellersfan 07-11-2019 01:05 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 

Originally Posted by ChumbusBees (Post 51969322)
I guess I'll post back here when I have a soldering iron then.

And watch the YouTube videos!

muellersfan 07-11-2019 01:06 PM

Re: 1995 Del Sol Si fuel troubles
 

Originally Posted by ChumbusBees (Post 51969322)
I guess I'll post back here when I have a soldering iron then.

edit: found the 2 bad capacitors. They have corrosion on the board stemming from them.

Is one a capacitor I marked by an asterisk?

Please post pics to show some nice examples for other members.


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