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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 04:51 PM
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whats up honda tuners... i want to know what i can do to my f22b2 engine to increase its performance.. any suggestions? i am interested in some bolt ons and other swaps.. i know turbo or nitrous is one way but i wanna know more ways.. thanks
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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h22 or f20b swap or boost the motor you have theres alot of options its also how much $$ you wanna spend....
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Old Aug 31, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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What is your goal and what is your budget?

Other than turbo (Forced Induction) and nitrous there is only all motor. All motor probably being the most expensive, dollar per horse power, of the three for your particular engine.
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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f22b2 is a fabolous engine both non vtec and the vtec! i own both and they are strong and powerful, u dnt necessarily have to swap(although u will get more power out of the h series), yea u can go all motor!
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 04:26 PM
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which intake headers will fit my f22? or how can i go all motor? well im willing to waste as much money as i can but i wanna keep my f22...
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Old Sep 1, 2010 | 08:02 PM
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Well then it wont be wasted if done right...

Lets start......... there is no intake header.. Its called an intake manifold..

So, here is power increase 101 on a honda N/A

1. Intake - Cold air intake, whatever brand you prefer.. My choice is AEM
2. Intake Manifold - Skunk2 is an option, or possibly the IM from a F23 (or Euro R if you have $$ to spend)
3. Bisimoto Heat-shielding Intake Manifold gasket
4. Exhast Header - I personally think DC sports makes a good unit for the price, but if you have the $$$ to spend, then its Bisimoto all the way
5. Catback exhaust - I personally love the APEXi WS2, and I think most forumers do as well
6. Upgraded camshaft - Bisimoto Level 2 Cam is an excellent choice.. Purchase adjustable cam gear and new valve springs with it
7. Upgrade your vehicles ECU to something tunable.. Hondata S300 is an excellent option.. This way you can dyno tune and get the best out of the changes made

8. If you have MORE money to spend, you can also consider boring out the cylinders a bit more and changing the pistons...
Porting the head is also an option..

Finally, if you have even more money to spend Nitrous is a nice way to give a boost over a short distance (with proper engine management of course)

If you actually follow through and do these upgrades, even though I doubt you will.. because everyone wants to upgrade until they see the price... Upgrade your suspension, brakes and tyres while you are at it
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:26 AM
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i just want an intake mani that will bolt right on to my f22b2... i want bolt ons that i can use to increase power? all i have in my car is..
cold air intake, espelir full catback, and some lightweight rims.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:04 AM
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The only manifolds that match up with F22bx heads are F22bx manifolds. If you want a different manifold you will need to drop on different heads. If you use F22a heads you can run the F22a6 dual runner manifold (you can also swap the upper plenum and run an H22/H23 upper intake with a larger TB), or the H23 prelude manifold.

Oh, and do a little reading on the basic theory of the internal combustion engine. When you know how something works, it is much easier to make it work better.

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The only manifolds that match up with F22bx heads are F22bx manifolds. If you want a different manifold you will need to drop on different heads. If you use F22a heads you can run the F22a6 dual runner manifold (you can also swap the upper plenum and run an H22/H23 upper intake with a larger TB), or the H23 prelude manifold.

Oh, and do a little reading on the basic theory of the internal combustion engine. When you know how something works, it is much easier to make it work better.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by chikin pickle
The only manifolds that match up with F22bx heads are F22bx manifolds. If you want a different manifold you will need to drop on different heads.
• FYI - The F23 intake manifold will fit on the F22B1 & 2 heads

F23 intake manifold to F22B2 DIY

This mod would also be good for a boosted F22B2 application.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:27 PM
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well i talked go my guys at topspeed chicago and they said it takes alot for this motor to be increase performance so they recommended nitrous kit... it safer n way better than a turbo
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:41 PM
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Nitrous is gay, and that "shop" youre talking to sounds like they know nothin about nuthin. I made over 300 WHP on a bone stock F22B1 for well over a year that had over 140K on it at the start, in fact My pile was number 2 on the stock block hi HP list here for over a year, now others have pushed 400WHP out of a stock longblock, but the point is, for 1200 bucks or so


Turbo Mani
Turbo
DSM 450s
Chipped ECU
Wastegate
used intercooler,
knockoff BOV
some pieced together chargepiping and couplers...
and some fab could be had for 1200 if you do your research....


EASY.

Run it on Crome (free) all youll have to do is get it tuned. I have a basemap you could use and know where theres a manifold for the Bx head for 80 shipped right now.



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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:56 PM
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 06:41 PM
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well what can use on my f22b2 to get better performance
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 07:37 PM
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wtf man, Didnt I just answer that question before?

Stop wasting my time and do your own research ... stupid noobs coming on the forum and asking for advice and then not taking it
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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lol 2 reading comprehension!

Originally Posted by honda_tuner26
well what can use on my f22b2 to get better performance
Originally Posted by nicolaselias
Well then it wont be wasted if done right...

Lets start......... there is no intake header.. Its called an intake manifold..

So, here is power increase 101 on a honda N/A

1. Intake - Cold air intake, whatever brand you prefer.. My choice is AEM
2. Intake Manifold - Skunk2 is an option, or possibly the IM from a F23 (or Euro R if you have $$ to spend)
3. Bisimoto Heat-shielding Intake Manifold gasket
4. Exhast Header - I personally think DC sports makes a good unit for the price, but if you have the $$$ to spend, then its Bisimoto all the way
5. Catback exhaust - I personally love the APEXi WS2, and I think most forumers do as well
6. Upgraded camshaft - Bisimoto Level 2 Cam is an excellent choice.. Purchase adjustable cam gear and new valve springs with it
7. Upgrade your vehicles ECU to something tunable.. Hondata S300 is an excellent option.. This way you can dyno tune and get the best out of the changes made

8. If you have MORE money to spend, you can also consider boring out the cylinders a bit more and changing the pistons...
Porting the head is also an option..


Finally, if you have even more money to spend Nitrous is a nice way to give a boost over a short distance (with proper engine management of course)

If you actually follow through and do these upgrades, even though I doubt you will.. because everyone wants to upgrade until they see the price... Upgrade your suspension, brakes and tyres while you are at it
Originally Posted by extralargenog
Nitrous is gay, and that "shop" youre talking to sounds like they know nothin about nuthin. I made over 300 WHP on a bone stock F22B1 for well over a year that had over 140K on it at the start, in fact My pile was number 2 on the stock block hi HP list here for over a year, now others have pushed 400WHP out of a stock longblock, but the point is, for 1200 bucks or so


Turbo Mani
Turbo
DSM 450s
Chipped ECU
Wastegate
used intercooler,
knockoff BOV
some pieced together chargepiping and couplers...

and some fab could be had for 1200 if you do your research....


EASY.

Run it on Crome (free) all youll have to do is get it tuned. I have a basemap you could use and know where theres a manifold for the Bx head for 80 shipped right now.



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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 12:31 AM
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i dont think skunk2 makes intake manifolds for the f22 i researched and its just b h and even the weak child(d series). do those upgrades and make the car as loud as possible...let her screammmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!!!
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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Originally Posted by honda_tuner26
well i talked go my guys at topspeed chicago and they said it takes alot for this motor to be increase performance so they recommended nitrous kit... it safer n way better than a turbo
LOL some mechanics are a joke.. f series are very capable of power friend!,
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 05:02 PM
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Don't increase motor. Decrease car. Power to weight is a good friend in the "go fast" world. Why not spend nothing? lol
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Old Sep 8, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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because some people like the idea of a backseat? and a radio, and doorliner, and carpets and mats and airconditioning and all these other things which you weight decreasers might consider superflous...

This thread reeks of failure, i feel sad that i spent time helping him out
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 01:41 AM
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Hey I found this thread interesting. I'm looking into upgrading my 97 accord and keep getting snagged on what route to start off with.

Everything is stock and I've been doing some research and have decided to go all motor since getting a turbo installed is a lot of work and cash(correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can find a complete turbo kit for 1200). I'm thinking a good turbo set up along with everything I need to run it right (ecu,larger injectors, tranny work since mine is auto) will cost me about 3000. Including a good tuning. Now about going all motor. I was thinking about getting a cheap air intake, headers, and cat exhaust that was going to be about 600 total but after looking up reviews on the parts I've come to learn that really it comes down to "you get what you pay for" when it comes to performance parts. So I'm thinking of starting off with greddy or dc sport headers and apexi cat back. Would they actually be worth the money or would the cheap kit do just as fine? The cheap kit was Optional racingcold air intake, Option racing heads and spec d catback
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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by anthy08
Hey I found this thread interesting. I'm looking into upgrading my 97 accord and keep getting snagged on what route to start off with.

Everything is stock and I've been doing some research and have decided to go all motor since getting a turbo installed is a lot of work and cash(correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think you can find a complete turbo kit for 1200). I'm thinking a good turbo set up along with everything I need to run it right (ecu,larger injectors, tranny work since mine is auto) will cost me about 3000. Including a good tuning. Now about going all motor. I was thinking about getting a cheap air intake, headers, and cat exhaust that was going to be about 600 total but after looking up reviews on the parts I've come to learn that really it comes down to "you get what you pay for" when it comes to performance parts. So I'm thinking of starting off with greddy or dc sport headers and apexi cat back. Would they actually be worth the money or would the cheap kit do just as fine? The cheap kit was Optional racingcold air intake, Option racing heads and spec d catback
lol Yes you can? You can find turbo kits on eBay with decent parts (minus the actual turbo, they are crap). An air intake will only reduce power, that's already established. They're basically there to look cool and take up less space, they have almost no performance enhancement capabilities. I personally like my header (HEADER, singular) but I can't exactly say I've felt any noticeable power. As for getting name-brand over eGay stuff, definitely. It may look the same but the quality of the material, welds, and build quality are apparent.

and FYI, you would have gotten a lot more results just looking this stuff up on google or the HT refined search. This question has been asked 1000+ times.
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 10:36 PM
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well im not going to Turbo this car. I read that you wont get results from a air intake unless you have a header(I know there's only one) and exhaust. also, I have been using Google but its only helped answer a few questions.
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Well, it wasn't a total waste of time, I read this post and will take the advice.

Thanks.
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Any tips on a cat-back system that isn't super loud? I am going to put an intake and cat-back on mine, maybe larger injectors. I just don't want a super loud muffler.
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