Zeroing cam gears on milled decks

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Old May 1, 2003 | 04:32 PM
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Default Zeroing cam gears on milled decks

I bought a used block that was sleeved. Unfornately it was shaved down almost to the level of those little circles that are sunken in a bit on the deck (One by the DS motor mount and two by the dizzy and VTEC solenoid). My guess was 30 thousansths milled of. I heard that for every 12 thousandths it changes cam timing by one degree. My head gasket is 6 thousanths thicker than stock. so .030 -.006 =.024 = 2 degrees. I did +2.5 intake and +2 exhaust. Then I set the timing. I did a couple 3rd gear pulls on the highway, but I didn't notice any difference. Did I change them in the right direction ?

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B18C block 9.4:1, B16A head, cometic .036 HG, CTR cams, 500 miles on motor (my pre turbo break in)
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Old May 1, 2003 | 05:32 PM
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Yes, you changed them in the right direction. If you shorten the distance between the head and block (like you did), you advance the cam gears.

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Old May 1, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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Thanks, I'm going to the track friday, the motor feels great NA, I can harly wait for my credit card to heal and finish it up.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:09 PM
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My deck was milled .003" should I even notice a difference with lining up the cam gears and timing belt? Im having a problem getting the timing belt perfect and wondering if this is the cause. Are cam gears nessecary anytime the deck is touched?
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 03:16 PM
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a good way to do this, if you have adjustablke cam gears, is to set the crank at TDC #1 and then loosen the cam gear adjusting bolts, then advance the cams till you can slide a dowel into the cam locking holes on the cam caps,
this is the easiest method i have found
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by R@mon &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a good way to do this, if you have adjustablke cam gears, is to set the crank at TDC #1 and then loosen the cam gear adjusting bolts, then advance the cams till you can slide a dowel into the cam locking holes on the cam caps,
this is the easiest method i have found </TD></TR></TABLE>

best way to zero the cams with deck height change
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Muckman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im having a problem getting the timing belt perfect and wondering if this is the cause. Are cam gears nessecary anytime the deck is touched?</TD></TR></TABLE> yeah and they made a big difference on my motor, i had a cometic (I think the thickness is .053) headgasket and i set the cam gears at zero, and with the formula i need 2 or 3 degrees adavance. I dynoed at 180 hp at 10psi on a b16a, twice . Advanced the intake cam 3 degrees only, next run i turned 235 hp with out any other changes. Seems high but, it found lost power and i had a thickness changes. I would be intresting to see other people dyno results before and after advancing the cams to compensate.
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Old Sep 11, 2004 | 05:39 PM
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cant you degree the cams and use adjustable sprockets to set it right
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