Would I need a Wideband 02 to tune my car with uberdata?
 

Just as the topic says, wanting to know whats the cheaper route.. v/afc hack, fmu, or ubderdata/hondata and such, so far uberdata is not too expensive at all only for the fact that i might need a wideband o2 sensor.. is it 100% necessary to have it? thanks in advance H-T genuises. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I would and I do. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

Re: (EM1 MIKE)
 

is it.. ABOSUTELY manditory? or can u turbo w/o it for a while and when u get the money u can get it later?

Re: (evilcivilian)
 

You could use a pyrometer and the stock O2 sensor, but that's not really realiable. Why not just get the uberdata and pay some to dyno tune it?

Re: (brryder)
 

windband isn't any more nec. than with fmu, or afc hack... But you shouldn't drive a car that hasn't been tuned no matter what you use to add fuel to it. People blow up cars because they cut corners with tuning. I bet more than half of the turbo hondas blow due to lean condition. I bought a wideband so I can keep an eye on it. But you could just take your car into the dyno when your done and check it that way. But personally i would rather have the option to keep an eye on it all the time.

Re: (toolowsol)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by toolowsol &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I bought a wideband so I can keep an eye on it. But you could just take your car into the dyno when your done and check it that way. But personally i would rather have the option to keep an eye on it all the time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Same here. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

I could have had my turbo installed and tuned 2 months ago, and I have been working on putting the kit together for over a year. But I decided to wait so that I could get the wideband o2 inorder to keep and eye on a/f.

Re: (kender)
 

This is the exactly why I bought my wideband before any of my turbo parts. That way I won't be tempted to boost my car on a untuned map.

My suggestion wait till you get your wideband. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (eddyboy)
 

I wouldnt ever NOT run a turbo car I owned without a wideband installed in it to constantly monitor AFRs

Re: (xenocron)
 

a cheaper way is that you can pay someone around you to rent their wideband, its a suggestions, if you dont' want to fork out the $300+

Re: (oxSLEEPERxo)
 

Ive had ran Uberdata's basemap on my GSR for 1-2 months.. And no problem, only the fact that it had 10-13 MPG on gas. lol...

Was stupid for me to run it untuned, yet the motor held fine... 200 compression all across....! after few months...

Then finally, i bought myself wideband not to long ago... Boy was I NUTS!!
Heres what my wideband read on avg:
IDLE: 11:1 &lt;---VERY DAMN RICH for IDLE!!
when in boost..: *(3,500rpm - 8,100rpm) It ranged from 12:1 AFR to 13.5:1 AFR! O_O LOTS OF POWER! yet... 13.5AFR was pretty damn lean.. if u ask me.. around 8000 rpm. =P

All and all, get a wideband! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif or get it tuned~ It will save you money on gas / headaches / blown motor, in the long run .... Trust me... You will lose more on paying for gas... So do it right the first time. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Re: (synik)
 

It's not absolutelty necessary, AT FIRST. You can run a good UD base map and do a little street tuning to make sure you get your car running smoothly. THEN, when you have enough money get tuned with a wb02 or buy your own. That's if you're really stressed for $$$. If you think about it though, a wb02 is a lot cheaper than having to rebuild a blown engine. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

See my sig, there is a nice sub $300 wideband on groupbuy special from one of the HT sponsors.

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Re: (kender)
 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kender &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I could have had my turbo installed and tuned 2 months ago, and I have been working on putting the kit together for over a year. But I decided to wait so that I could get the wideband o2 inorder to keep and eye on a/f.</TD></TR></TABLE>

definately a good way to do it. you might be able to make a rich ass basemap with the uberdata, and drive the car around on really low boost settings for a lil while until you can get to a dyno or a wideband, but i wouldnt push it much