How do you like it and why?

 

I can tell you who isnt. Papadakis sponsored AEM car and every other fast car in the nhra,ndra,idrc. Anyone open the newest turbo magazine issue?? notice that every japanese import car running 8's,7's ,and 6's is running motec or F.a.s.t. except for toyomoto is running the ancient e6k. he is an e6k freak though, he knows it inside and out and swears by it.

 

well for the rest of us normal people that dont have single digit ET's , AEM is sweet. ive been running it since july and havent had any problems with it. tons of features, can be difficult to use, but the more you play with it, the more you learn and get used to it. AEM

 

hey cool. i am pretty happy with it too.

 

You magazine racer, jk

 

I hear what you are saying. the magazine was just a quick point.I would still have to say, go with what is proven. the only thing the aem ems has proven is that its a mediocre standalone at best. the people that do like it probably never used a speedpro.personally i would run the hondata over the EMS. Cause if your not looking for single digits the hondata will do everything you need. I made over 500whp on hondata. It doesnt get much more simple than that.


[Modified by MotorMatrix.com, 2:20 AM 12/20/2002]

 

good points.

 

The magazine also shows all the quick cars run Motec and FAST, then you say to go with whats proven. I run an Accel DFI 6.0. If Accel isnt proven, then i dont know what is.. and none of them use it.. i just beleive its all about preference, and tuning availabilities, and application, and most people seem to think AEM is user friendly, so hooray for them..

 

If you plan on tuning the car yourself, I believe the AEM is superior in convenience and features to the Hondata. You see FAST and Speedpro in competition cars for ONE reason - because "single digit" cars are professionally tuned, and the professional tuners have been working with those systems for YEARS, so they want to stick with what they know rather than learning something new. They're not inherently superior... all of them do the same damn thing. I knew from the start I would be tuning my own car, I have access to a dyno and wideband O2 meter, so the AEM was an easy choice, and I have been very pleased with it.

 

aem is less hassle for wiring and it very user friendly.

it does anything and everything you want it to do...

i am very very happy with the results that i got from it...

hondata is good but i think the ems has an edge

 

I beg to differ. It is easy to mess with in some way's although it was hell just getting the thing to idle! I agree with what someone said before about go with what's proven, such as Speed Pro or Accell. A few friends of mine such as Alex (GSREV), and Dandee (Turbodandee) and other in the Houston area run Speed Pro and I should have done the same! AEM has been difficult for us to mess with so I am going to move on. Accell Gen 7....JAN.1!!! And the reason I chose Gen 7 is because my tuner gave me a good price and he knows it in and out! He has never tuned the EMS before until he learned on mine. Never the less if you have a tuner who has been messing with the EMS for a while then I wouldn't worry. The best advice I should have taken long ago was "go with what your tuner knows best", which was Speed Pro or Accell in my situation......I guess I wanted to be different


[Modified by turbo Si, 8:38 AM 12/20/2002]

 

Seems like the AEM is a pretty good system. My tuner has ben tuning AEM for the last year and bit now and has come very familiar with it so i feel confident going with that one. There are so many more options with the AEM vs. my Hondata although i may never use half of them from the AEM. We'll see what happens when it gets tuned im curious to see what it entails.

 

DFI Gen 7

Hondata is a easier system then AEM, plain and simple. AEM is more complicated then Hondata. With Hondata your car will idle like stock WITHOUT doing anything. With AEM you will have to mess around with the ignition map and as well as the fuel maps to get it to idle good. I'm not saying that you can't do it but it's just harder then Hondata. With Hondata you won't have to do anything extra to get the car to idle like stock and most importantly start up like stock cars. I have to admit starting most standalone's isn't the easiest thing in the world. It takes me abour 20 secs to start up my car with Accel Dfi, while on customers cars with HOndata it takes 2 secs to get the car started.

Aem system is getting to be pretty good now, with all the updates and bugs being cleared. However if you want to tune yourself and learn how to do it, Hondata is the way to go. If you don't know anything about tuning a car, I suggest startign with hondata. If however your getting it tuned by a professional then jsut make sure he's a very well educated on the system he's gonig to tune.

 

If you are afraid of cutting up your wiring harness or the "hassle" of installing a stand alone, you have no business buying one.

 

AEM and Hondata are plug n play, there is no need to change anything on the wirign harness. I said plug and play NOT PLUG AND DRIVE.

 

 

yeah yeah yeah...any serious AEM EMS user is going to be adding additional wiring for EGT logging, boost control, 2 stage rev limiting, extra pressure sensors, different MAP sensor, wideband o2 sensor etc etc.

its nice that you dont have to cut up any of the factory harness to add these features save for a few wires like the o2 input and solder in some injector clips for bigger injectors.

 

As far as starting up, that goes with tuning. One thing I did not like at all about AEM was all the parameters you had to play with just to get it to idle right. You go under options and theres like 50 things to adjust just under idle.
After having so many idleing problems JP said that it is doing to be difficult because I run a three bar map sensor rather than a stock! Enough was enough for me! I'll tell yall how it goes with the GEN 7, soon!

 

I'm still a n00b to standalone systems..
Can someone please comment on the AEM EMS Automap feature?
AEM EMS is the only standalone that has such a thing?
If so, why dont other standalones have it?
I know its not just drive & automatically map everything for you,
I just think a standalone reading input from wideband and giving some sort of average map, will cut your tuning time in half?

 

ive been wondering how this feature has worked also... anybody have any experience with it yet?

 

So there is an issue with idleing?....i know of a few people that run the system and have been using it for a couple of years and had no problems with the AEM system interms of idleing.

Guess it depends who tunes it?

 

Running the AEM for a couple of years? I could have sworn it was a pretty new system.

 

I use the EMS and love it! I would recommend it to anyone. BUt it has been said time and time again go with what your tuner is comfortable with!

 

more info on ems automapping requested......


and wasnt DFI 7.0 supposed to have a "honda specific unit"?

EDIT- does ems have VE tables like DFI7 and TEC3?


[Modified by riceboy, 5:52 AM 12/21/2002]

 

DFI GEN 7, as far as I know, has a universal 4 cylinder unit which can be used on any other 4 cyclinder car. You just have to purchase the honda wire harness. That is the unit Mike (DFI tech) recommended me to go with!




[Modified by turbo Si, 8:44 AM 12/21/2002]