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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 07:14 PM
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Ok I was reading the thread under me but he unfortunately has his motor pretty much built with aftermarket parts.. So I need help with mines

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B18c
Replaced the gsr pistons with jdm b16s
Type r water pump
Type r belts

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All ctr internals
Ported and polished
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Now I want to supercharge this and I don't know if I should do either a
3 angle or a 5 angle valve job?

Jrsc is what I want and I have a Walbro fuel pump and have 1000 cc injectors wanting to install ...

Any recommendations apart of the angle job, what can be done to the block?
Any help will be appreciated
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 09:05 PM
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Is this going to be a daily? 3 angle will be good enough. Use a gsr intake cam and keep the ctr exhaust cam. And I don't think u will need that big of injectors. And how much boost are u planning to run? Do u have rs machine b16 pistons?
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 10:52 PM
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Yeh it's a daily but I'm most likely going to keep it garage kept after the complete build, and no nothing has been done to them, And I don't have any gsr cams laying around but does it make a good difference? And I want 8-10 psi... 1000cc is too much?
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Old Oct 24, 2011 | 10:55 PM
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I want to do 11s to 12s on the track and this is in a rex
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 11:01 AM
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I want to do 11s to 12s on the track and this is in a rex












well with that being said, then your goal wont be hard! make sure you have a complete suspension on that rex. and i think 1000cc is unecessary, but you wont have to worry bout fuel lol...hope u got a walbro fuel pump with all the other accessories to accomodate the setup as far as fuel. sounds like its going to be a fun *** setup dude. to get maximum results find a gsr intake cam(p72 gsr, not p61). theyre usually no more than 65 dollars for them or at least just the intake. if you are on compression close to 11:1:1 or more, make sure you use a thicker than oem headgasket to bring down that compression since you plan on running 11-12 psi....hey, hope everything goes well on the build. keep us posted if you can!
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oh **** my bad man, i meant to say for 8-10 psi lol....gotta excuse my ADHD lol...but yea use a lil thicker head gasket and it shouldnt hurt at all considering you wanna run considerably high boost. and yes a gsr intake cam will make a difference. if you look on other builds on here you will see that often ppl use gsr intake and itr exhaust cam on jrsc'd setups!
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 01:08 PM
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ive got the same sutup but im jdm b16brx
1000cc way to big idle will suffer very hard to tune below 3000rpm 550-600 plenty
8-10psi needs cooling or you melt stuff get a LHT Inlet manifold
as said GSR In cam is a must have
2.5 - 3" exhaust free flowing

more info and details plus a good read
http://ftlracing.com/
for tricky questions pm Veris

or do like i did read the JRSC setup thread from start to finish ...
you will feel a lot more informed and get a handle on what works and dont
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Old Oct 25, 2011 | 04:49 PM
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Nice this is perfect guys , just what I need to read, think my type r trany with 6 puck is good? Lol an yeh I have a mishimito rAdiator and a full 2.5 Megan racing exhaust , might be. 3inch pipping idk lol I never checked
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Yea man that radiator will help you..and yea itr tranny will be good cuz its LSD. But a hydro gsr 2nd gear might benefit from the tq and lightweight frame u have but you're good. 2.5 in exhaust is good but to kinda compensate use a test pipe for maximum flow. 6 puck Clutch is good..and since u got such a light frame, I recommend no lighter than 12 lb flywheel!
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I had this setup a long time ago, check my first setup on pg 1,
https://honda-tech.com/forums/appearance-build-threads-122/c-street-sleeper-want-feedback-comments-lots-pics-%2A%2A%2A-2556604/
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Lmao Im going to keep that in mind 12lb flywheel indeed But so you think I should get rid of my type R trans and get a gsr??
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Originally Posted by wunfstgsr
I had this setup a long time ago, check my first setup on pg 1,
https://honda-tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2556604
I saw! You just had a built gsr with aftermarket parts lol but what numbers where you running ? If I can't touch low 12s ima be very upset lol
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Originally Posted by MRGRIM
ive got the same sutup but im jdm b16brx
1000cc way to big idle will suffer very hard to tune below 3000rpm 550-600 plenty
8-10psi needs cooling or you melt stuff get a LHT Inlet manifold
as said GSR In cam is a must have
2.5 - 3" exhaust free flowing

more info and details plus a good read
http://ftlracing.com/
for tricky questions pm Veris

or do like i did read the JRSC setup thread from start to finish ...
you will feel a lot more informed and get a handle on what works and dont
And I did some reading and basicly told me if I wnt to go in a straight line to go boost lol -_-
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 12:31 AM
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I saw! You just had a built gsr with aftermarket parts lol but what numbers where you running ? If I can't touch low 12s ima be very upset lol
Block*
B18c
Replaced the gsr pistons with jdm b16s
Type r water pump
Type r belts

Head*
Jdm b16a head
All ctr internals
Ported and polished
----_-----____________

Now I want to supercharge this and I don't know if I should do either a
3 angle or a 5 angle valve job?

Jrsc is what I want and I have a Walbro fuel pump and have 1000 cc injectors wanting to install ...

Any recommendations apart of the angle job, what can be done to the block?

I dont get whats so funny! My first setup was not to far from your setup, and you got a pretty much stock block and head with a port of some kind.. I had a high compression poor man ITR setup with a jrsc @5psi. motor made 230hp but i never draged raced the car to see what it would hit, im sure it would of been around the 12' on some slicks and traction bar.
Where in your post did you ask any advise on what times you might pull of with this setup? Your rediculouse to think if your not running 12's your gonna be upset?
Have you ever even draged raced before?
even if you had a stout motor it takes more than hp to achieve a respectable time slip on the strip!
good luck getting traction on first gear with the jrsc. without a lsd and slicks.
A 3 angle or 5 angle dont matter just get the head a valve job. It will not affect how your motor will operate as long as you break it in properlly.
Your laughing at my thread when if you read my thread it would of answered more ?'s than your even asking and even make you think twice about the mods your thinking of, like the walbro fuel pump you dont need! or the 1000cc injectors you dont need lol!!!
your also asking what can be done to a block that you just posted as rebuilt with new pistons ect.! why would you ask for advise after you build the block! people can tell you to do a whole bunch of diffrent things than just a oem build! high comp. low comp. stroker motor, ls-vtec, b2o vtec, sleaved! ect..
What about the size T.b or intake your gonna use or header and ex? these are the things that are gonna benifit your engine build.
Or how about what pulley set up do you plan to use to achieve your psi level?
Are you planning to go over 7psi? if so better do more research on the jrsc. cause after 7psi that bitch gets hot!
look at my LHT JRSC build, that might get you closer to 11's on the right tires.
good luck buddy.
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:41 AM
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Dam some1 got sensitive and I have a jdmb16 with bolt ons and I did 14.7 , the block and everything I listed I have in my garage , I'm waitin for the winter to go and save money to put the build together... So now if I have Pratically a stock b16 doing 14s I really really hope that I hit 12s with a supercharged "poor mans type r"... I was originally going to go turbo but I want a sleeper,
And my "lol" comment wasnt laughing at your build smh it was more like you got way more money invested then me , and if a supercharged gsr did 230!!! Your tuner did something wrong -___-, my friend has a gsr with less modifications den you doing 210 ?... I appreciate every comment and help given to me, so I repeat was t laughing at your build.....

Rated r has a b16 with headers exhaust and a gsr intake cam doing 180hp I think tuned
I'm hoping for atleast 280-300 hp
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:43 AM
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Stock internal gsr doing 13s supercharged (my friends eg bubble) Psi I have no clue because he never wanted to tell me
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Old Oct 26, 2011 | 02:51 AM
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And yeh I didn't post what time should be expected because its more to a drag than a fast motor I have that in mind. And last time I checked a type r tranny has lsd and yes slicks and FuLl suspension is in thought already,
Also didnt know that superchargers heat up after 7psi thank you now I know to look for more info on pullys thanx
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Originally Posted by sired
Lmao Im going to keep that in mind 12lb flywheel indeed But so you think I should get rid of my type R trans and get a gsr??






Hell no if anything just keep the itr. You have short gears and LSD with carbon synchros to better withstand the abuse.hope u have traction bars and full coilovers to keep of on the ground. What exhaust and header will you be using? And at least itr valvetrain would be beneficial. As for the heat issue, look up lht intercooler kit. Its gonna be damn well worth the money. What are you using for engine management?
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Oh and ftw, what year itr trans do you have?
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Oh and ftw, what year itr trans do you have?
It's a 98
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It's a 98








Lol I knew it was going to be a 98 spec somehow! Bro u got some short *** gears man..but if u were on a track like autox that'd be excellent. Well I hope you can drive because you will go through those gears real fast. On the street you're going to spin the 1st three gears due to the 4.785 final drive. But I must say u have a trans everyone likes. Another reason why you dnt want too light of a flywheel! I'm using an itr flywheel and its pretty efficient. Not too light and not too heavy and I still got all of my torque! Man I'm ready for the results. Make sure u make some vids on YouTube!! :-p
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As far as The block, have you put the p30's in yet? I'd recommend the rs machine pr3 piston. Its OEM, but a little stronger of a piston. And if I were you if the funds are there get the entire block balanced...I see you didn't mention oil pump...do u have a brand new itr/gsr oil pump?
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Originally Posted by vtecmasta85
As far as The block, have you put the p30's in yet? I'd recommend the rs machine pr3 piston. Its OEM, but a little stronger of a piston. And if I were you if the funds are there get the entire block balanced...I see you didn't mention oil pump...do u have a brand new itr/gsr oil pump?


Making a video on YouTube lol you already know might even see it on Honda day hopefully it's put together by atco if not def English town and well I have a jdm b16 and I wasn't really going to buy another pair of cams since I keep reading jdm b16 cams are great for the build I'm going fOr

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And I haven't bought an oil pump yet but was getting and ITR
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Nah dude keep the ctr Cams but find a cheap gsr intake cam. B16. Cams are shitty and whoever said they were good for your build is full of ****. They flat out suck that's why almost nobody uses them. If anything leave the ctr intake and exhaust cams
DO NOT USE B16 CAMS!
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