I am in the process of installing the stage 3 dss axles I bought. I am having a little problem with the passenger side axle. The inner splint is much longer than my stock, I spoke to Frank at DSS about it and he said it was alright. However when I tried to install it, it would not seat all the way in (I would still have like 1/2 inch space left from the hub). This would cause an minor oil leak. My other concern is the geometry of the suspension with the axle sticking out further. This is on a 98 GSR in a 92 civic. Any help, past experience or pictures would really help me.

 

I would be interessted too, if there is the suspension geometry changed

 

Mine also didnt seat all the way in. I have been driving for a while now and have no leaks. Also, the axles seem to be a little long as the boot seems bunched up, but again no problems so far. I have only done a couple burnouts...nothing too crazy.

Jason

 

you noticed any chamber change or something?

 

the gap is normal, i have it as well. no leaks. no changes in the geometry.

 

So this 1 inch gap is normal??? Man, I hope you all are right... Here is a picture of it..And trust me I bang on it and that is the furthest it is gonna go in.

 

splines are screwed up.. does your stock axle fit fine?

thats what happened to me once i couldnt get it in any farther like yours..

 

The driver side (stock mid shaft) fits fine. But the passenger side is much longer, therefore I called up DSS and mention about it. Comparing to stock, the inner spline was like an inch to inch half longer. Forgot to measure it!

 

mine was like that at first, u gotta hammer it in, probably bad, but gets the job done. the snap ring will seat it self and thats when it will go in more.

 

well they sent ya the wrong axle..

and also hammering in axles isnt good for them, just use your hands and kinda jack hammer them in..

the hammer is hard on the outside CV's..

 

I also noticed my stage 3's didn't go all the way in. however mine were only 1/2 centimeter out. I thought it was because I didn't press it in hard enough. I had bolted the axle to the hub already. There may be a geometry change, but I cant tell since I installed a manual steering rack at the same time and it is out of alignment.

Steve

 

do yall know wether you got the ones made for swaps or for the actual dc2 bodies? i know on the sight they say theres a difference...

 

That is only pertaining to the outer splines. Since integra and civic have different hubs. Inner spline, it is still the same engine.

 

Take a picture side by side with the new axle and the old stock axle for me. Also, sometimes the retaining clip on the end of the axle is just too big, you might need to pull that retaining clip off of the axle and compress it JUST A LITTLE BIT in a vice and then re-install it. I have done tons of axles on customer cars and sometimes that retaining clip just needs to be compressed very SLIGHTLY! But I would really like to see a picture of the axle ends side by side.

 

There maybe a bigger underlying problem with DSS sending the wrong axle. I had to replace my passenger side already because they sent me a passenger side that was too long, with the boot bunching up like someone else said, and the rod being way too long so the axle binded against itself. Like Hondaddict said do a side by side comparison and take pictures.

It was different for my setup since I have a hybrid car and I needed axle lengths of a 92-93 integra that I didnt have on hand.

 

Alright, I have figured it out. I took a picture of the stock comparing to the DSS. Apparently the lip on the DSS is too long and it was hitting against the tranny therefore that is the furthest it is gonna go in. If you look at the machine part of the hub, you can see it is much longer on the DSS comparing to the stock. I dont' know if this axle is made for another engine or they mis-machining the hub to the correct length.

 

Sounds like an infamous mess up by DSS again. I would send this same email to Frank with the same discription.. The only good thing is that they are cool about it and usually fix their errors..

to DSS Dunno what to give them

 

I don't see why that would be a problem, as long as the overall length of the axle is correct, the fact that it doesn't immediately get really big shouldn't be a problem. Just as long as the length of your "1" and "2" is the same and the length of the splines are the same, and again that the overall length of the axles is correct then I don't see a problem. I would just politely and INTELLIGENTLY call DSS and ask about it, don't point fingers YET.

 

Assuming that the other end of the axles are lined up then there is definatleya problem regarless if the spline is the correct size. Like I said DSS are wonderful about taking car of any issues, but you would just think a reputable company like this should have their act together by now.

And I am only talking from experience. I have stage III axles as well and my passenger side was off by almost a whole inch, too long in length.. The cups were great it was just the rod that was too long.


[Modified by Jason kiDD, 10:49 PM 3/17/2003]


[Modified by Jason kiDD, 10:49 PM 3/17/2003]

 

i had no problems with my DSS stage 3 axles....

 

Straight swaps are probably easier... But that means you were also one of the lucky ones..

 

I noticed that too, my axles are longer. I told this Viren and he told me it is fine.

 

I am not complaining about DSS services. They are top notch...I am just trying to resolve my problem and find out if this is common. If you look carefully at the pics, you can see where the splines goes into the shaft. The shaft is much longer on the DSS (at the unpainted portion marked in parenthesis) This would prevent the axle from butting up against the transmission seal, causing my axle to leak oil.

 

I realy hope I have no probs, don't want to send back the axles to USA all the way from Europe


[Modified by austrian type-R, 5:43 PM 3/18/2003]