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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 06:46 PM
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i was edelbrocks website, and ive heard great things about the victor x, but i was told it doesent help the mid and low end tourque which i dont have anyways because i have a honda lol. well i got a stock t-charged gsr and i plan on doing internals soon, but i dont wanna rev to 10,000 and all that. but i saw the performer x manifold where it says peak performance is at 4200-8200. seems more like what i would want as a street driven car. any thought on this manifold compared to the victorx?
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Default Re: performer x/victor x (playahwitgame)

Someone correct me if I’m wrong... but I think the performer x is for the d series engines and the victor x manifold is strictly for b series engines. both manifold are pretty much the same design but for different engines.
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Old Aug 10, 2006 | 09:46 PM
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according to edelbrocks website, theyve got 1 for the gsr. they are absoulutely different designs ACTUALLY !!! lol. performer x has a small plenum and long runners, as the victor x has small plenum and short runners. according to edelbrock, the performer is best from 4500-8200 which the victor is best from 7000-10,000. my redline is 8 so i dont know if i would go with the victor x. imsure itll give me more topend, but im stock, i can only push it so much anyway and plus, i have a boost controller lol
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 05:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omiehomie &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Someone correct me if I’m wrong... but I think the performer x is for the d series engines and the victor x manifold is strictly for b series engines. both manifold are pretty much the same design but for different engines. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I talked with someone at Edelbrock a while back, and they were somewhat disappointed in the Victor X but I believe the overall design came more from JG. They mentioned they were working on their own manifold, design completely by them which I believe is the new Performer X for the B-series. It'd be interesting to see how this manifold compares to what is currently on the market and the pricing of it.


http://www.edelbrock.com/sport...shtml
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 08:33 AM
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The Performer X is excellent on engines that will not go past 8500. I have a few pictures of a Performer X installed on my EG. Here is a picture of the manifold sitting on my bench, and ill try and find the pictures of it installed on my EG.

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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 10:05 AM
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I have the original one, the one that say JG edelbrock on it for a b16. arent the new victor X the same as the older ones? if not whats the difference?
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 10:28 AM
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Do you have any pictures of it?
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Old Aug 11, 2006 | 11:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rudebwoy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have the original one, the one that say JG edelbrock on it for a b16. arent the new victor X the same as the older ones? if not whats the difference?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think so. There is now a Performer X for B-series engines. The Performer X only used to be for the D-series.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 08:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Trooper &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you have any pictures of it? </TD></TR></TABLE>


the best one I can find right now
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 10:00 AM
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I have noticed that a lot of high horsepower turbo Hondas are running the victor x. the victor x has a large plenum and short runners wide runners, makes since that it would work well with FI set ups. The performer looks to have a small plenum with long narrow runners, which should help to produce torque by increasing air velocity at low rpm. I would think this would be better suited for NA set ups. This is pure speculation of course.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 11:04 AM
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well i heard the victor x is a GREAT manifold. but it makes the power from 7000-10,000 according to edelbrocks wesite. mmy redline is 8100. i dont think its good for a stock head. i could be wrong. lol
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 11:46 AM
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Not sure if these help anyone or not but, here they are for comparison anyway...

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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 02:02 PM
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the performer x makes midrange power. It also used in the edlebrock turbo kit, which means if you are going turbo, then maybe you should go with the performer x. It also seems more pratical if you are using this on a dail driven car.
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Old Aug 12, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Alright, ***-uming the plenums are the same volume and the runners are the same internal diameter. Based on my understanding of old school muscle car manifold design ie dual plane and single plane design. It would be my guess that the performer MIGHT help spool the turbo up a little quicker due to the extra velocity gained by runner length. However after the inlet air becomes pressurized I doubt there would be much difference. In an NA application I would bet the performer would win hands down for the street.
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Old Aug 13, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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The Plenums and the runners are different diamaters and volumess. Also the throttle body pad has been angled a few defrees to optimize air flow in to the plenum, and it does make a **** load of torque over the Victor X




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Old Aug 14, 2006 | 10:47 AM
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Did Edelbrock happen to do a side by side test on these two manifold on the same car? That would be cool if they did.

&lt;---Interested in seeing some testing on this performer-x intake compared to the victor-x. My guess is that the performer-x is for mildly modded cars and the victor is for more all out type cars or higher hp higher rpm cars.

I don't like the way they rate the intakes, peak power from 7000-10000rpm. They should put a cfm rating or something in there as well. Car A moves X amount of air at 8000rpm, Car B moves this same amount of air at 5000rpm, Car A noticed gains from 7000+, Shouldn't Car b notice gains from 4000+ because if in theory they move the same amount of air at different rpms how does the intake know what rpm the car is at?
Pressureized vs. non-pressurized intake = I have no idea what or how you could compare them as to comparing the intake on an NA car compared to how it will work and what rpm it would work on a FI car. Clueless in this area
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