This is what I have: Let me know if I'm ok running like this....

2000 Integra LS
Drag 3 Turbo Kit
AEM fuel rail (stock injectors)
Walbro 255 intank fuel pump
NGK cold plugs (stock ignition)
Tial 35mm waste gate

With this set up, I'm running 0.4 Bar (5.8 psi) off the tial wategate.
The car is running well now, But will I need to retard my timing, if so how do I do that? Also i'm not using the FMU, just running the intank pump, will this effect anything?

 

uhhh yeah. put that fmu in. your car is not going to get enough fuel...ur asking for trouble.

 

yea you do need the fmu cause your not running a standalone like hondata...

 

Yeah you will detonate BAD, get some sort of fuel management! you may think its running good but you cant allways hear detonation. You will allso need an inline fuel pump for the FMU. seriously DO THIS SOON. your risking it

Rob

 

honda stock fuel management is good for up to 7psi of boost............that is stock EVERYTHING. .....i wouldnt go any higher w/o upgrading ur fuel management, if not ur on borrowed time.

just my 2 cents
(ive been running 5psi on a stock d16z6 for over 6 months now, and i wrap in up to redline in the heat of the summer.........)

 

thanks for all of your help. your info is greatly appreciated, it can save us alot of money. But I know that alot of people run different setups that can both work. But i just get mixed feedback and I cant come to a reasonable conclusion, other than I know I need more fuel, but the approaches of upgrading the fuel system are all fawked. Check out this thread. Some people choose to go w/ an inline and fmu, others go w/ a hi flowing intank pump, but lack a fmu due to the hi output capabilities of the intank. for this conversation, I am refering to the wallbro 255 intank unit, and running on stock internals on a b18b1 w/ only 5.8 psi, and 6.5 psi the most(due to the spring of the tial 35mm wg). Your information, can save me alot of trouble. Please help. Here is a link to what some other peeps think.

http://www.hondavision.com/showthrea...threadid=12749


[Modified by boostedsol, 8:18 PM 7/13/2002]

 

Just think about it, all turbo kits i ahve seen all come with some type of fuel managment, wether it be e-manage or just an FMU. It is a MUST for me. Remember you cant allways HEAR detonation. borrowed time is right!

Rob

 

I'm shooting for maybe 10psi with DSMs $10 of fuel management circuitry DIE AFC, DIE!!! haha

 

ok, so ur saying i'm good with 5.8 psi..........................????????????????????? ???
all I want is a clear answer.

 

get an fmu man!

arizona heat is going to own you!

 

if you cant always hear detonation, what other signs are there?

 

NONE its a silent killer, some evan use doctors stethascopes. J&S ultra safe guard is a cool way to get around detonation.......
im telling you, if you dont run any fuel managment (other than stock) you WILL detonate. i promise you. Evan at .4 BAR there is just not enough fuel to keep up. REMEMBER Honda never inended for there engines to see boost.


Rob

 

If you run with out the FMU I will drive to AZ and shoot you. JK.. Do yourself a favor and put in the fmu.

art

 

You need to use that FMU.

 

Well it looks like an overwhelming majoruty to me, but ultimatly its up to you.


cheap insurance bro'

Rob

 

what about with 440 injectors, AEM fuel rail, 255 intank, FPR, and VAFC?


[Modified by speedymon, 2:17 PM 7/14/2002]

 

ok guys, thanks for the input. Anyone care to add to this?

 

Yes I'd like to add that I noticed you didnt have a inline pump. Get one also.

 

ive got an inline pump, but i was told not to run an inline pump and an intank pump w/ a fmu simultaneously. i dont know what the hell to do. everyone tells me different things. im just so stuck. i seriously dont know what the **** to do.

 

You can run the FMU with the inline and with the intank pump. Just use all the things that came with the kit.

 

i know for a fact that id be running way to rich w/ the inline, wallbro 255 intank, and the 12:1 fmu simultaneously for only 6.5psi. still stuck.

what setup do you all run? have you had any problems w/ your motor or your fuel system? maybe that will shed some light as well. thanks for your input.


[Modified by boostedsol, 7:10 AM 7/16/2002]

 

get an fmax fuel management kit, with its 2 extra fuel inejectors, u dont have to worry about fmu's, oversized injectors, etc etc, and u can safely run 10psi on stock internals. 15psi with race fuel on a cool night out at the track. ( i have a countless number of friends running this setup, going on 3 years some of them - it works)

 

http://www.homemadeturbo.com <- great web site for all you do it your-selfers

 

well, i guess im still confused a bit. really dont know what to do.

 

get an a/f gauge also.i think it will help you notice how th emicture is when you get on it.it won;t be totally acurate but it ill help.