Help with turbo drain!!! Help Please
Here's another pic of the flange I had the pipe welded to. I just have some plain 5/8" rubber hose on for now but I have some high temp rubber/silicon hose coming from ATP. http://www.atpturbo.com/Mercha...-OIL1
Losers, don't you know if you accellerate fast enough with an angled Holset, the oil gets sucked out due to the G forces?
Most turbos can deal with ~30 degrees off center (both side/side & front/back). Holsets are overbuilt as far turbos Hondas are used to, so you could even get away with restricting the oil a tad more than you should - if absolutely needed.
Otherwise scavenge pumps can be purchased for ~$70, and is usually the bulk of a scavenge setup's price (if not using lots of hose like a rear mount).
Most turbos can deal with ~30 degrees off center (both side/side & front/back). Holsets are overbuilt as far turbos Hondas are used to, so you could even get away with restricting the oil a tad more than you should - if absolutely needed.
Otherwise scavenge pumps can be purchased for ~$70, and is usually the bulk of a scavenge setup's price (if not using lots of hose like a rear mount).
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Not all mini-rams are like that
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How bout this I dont have a restrictor.
Do I need one?
I was told by flamenco-t that i didnt need one.
If I do how in the hell am I gonna find a fitting that will work?
Do I need one?
I was told by flamenco-t that i didnt need one.
If I do how in the hell am I gonna find a fitting that will work?
A restrictor for your inlet line can be purchased from tunertoys. I kno I used one with my garret t3t4, the garret only needs around 30 psi to lubricate properly, and our honda's can produce up to 80 psi. If I'm wrong please correct me. But I was under the impression a restrictor is very useful in honda turbos
Yeah but a holset doesnt use a normal fitting.
It has a 12mm inlet, kinda hard to find a fitting with a restrictor with a 12mm fitting on the end of it with a -4an on the other end.
It has a 12mm inlet, kinda hard to find a fitting with a restrictor with a 12mm fitting on the end of it with a -4an on the other end.
I don't think u need a restrictor, I found this post on another web site:Quote:
"The holset definitely does not need an oil restrictor in fact that would be a bad idea to have one as they use floating bearings and the oil centers them.
Bad advice.
It is DEFINITELY should not be passed over without some consideration because the Holset Service Repair Manual for the HX30-32-35-40 specifically says this:
Quote:
The minimum oil pressure when the engine is on load must be 210 kPa (30 lbf/in2). Maximum
permissible operating pressure is 500 kPa (72 lbf/in2) although 600 kPa (88 lbf/in2) is permitted during
cold start up. Under idling conditions pressure should not fall below 70 kPa (10 lbf/in2).
Oil pressure of 150 kPa (20 lbf/in2) must show at the turbocharger oil inlet within 3 - 4 seconds of engine
firing to prevent damage to turbocharger bearing system. A flexible supply pipe is recommended.
FYI lbf/in2=PSI"
Hope this helps
"The holset definitely does not need an oil restrictor in fact that would be a bad idea to have one as they use floating bearings and the oil centers them.
Bad advice.
It is DEFINITELY should not be passed over without some consideration because the Holset Service Repair Manual for the HX30-32-35-40 specifically says this:
Quote:
The minimum oil pressure when the engine is on load must be 210 kPa (30 lbf/in2). Maximum
permissible operating pressure is 500 kPa (72 lbf/in2) although 600 kPa (88 lbf/in2) is permitted during
cold start up. Under idling conditions pressure should not fall below 70 kPa (10 lbf/in2).
Oil pressure of 150 kPa (20 lbf/in2) must show at the turbocharger oil inlet within 3 - 4 seconds of engine
firing to prevent damage to turbocharger bearing system. A flexible supply pipe is recommended.
FYI lbf/in2=PSI"
Hope this helps
ya you should run a restrictor, But It doesn't seem anyone makes 1 for ur setup. Have you thought about having someone custom cnc a restrictor 4 u. There's gotta be someone it the A that can do this.
A restrictor doesn't help with his true problem: proper drain back. Hondas have good oil pressure from the jump start. If tapped from the oil sending unit, you'll have plenty of oil to lubricate the turbo if using a -3an line. The major concern is the way the turbo drain is set to the pan.
Does it make that much of a difference?
I always thought it was about the same.
Hell I could always use the other one.
Just buy the Stealthmode piece.
I always thought it was about the same.
Hell I could always use the other one.
Just buy the Stealthmode piece.
I agree. That is what I'm usin, -3 from the pressure switch. As for it bein the same, they are to a degree. When vtec kicks in there is a pressure drop at the sending unit.
Have you solved your drain back problem?
Have you solved your drain back problem?
Yeah I think the drain problem is solved.
I will know for sure tonight when I put everything back together.
Now im worried about the restrictor part of it.
I will continue to talk tommorrow (no comp at the house)
I will know for sure tonight when I put everything back together.
Now im worried about the restrictor part of it.
I will continue to talk tommorrow (no comp at the house)
If you can't find a restrictor you might want to consider dropping to - 3 lines. I've read some people that use this turbo with -3 line have no problems. Maybe look into selling your sandwich and -4 lines and switchin to -3 from the pressure sending unit. Ill post a pic of my fitting off the sending unit.
Its hard both ways.
I have also heard of people putting NOS pills in the line to restrict it.
Dont know if that would work. Sounds kinda weird to me.
I might just try it without a restrictor and see how it does.
Well the good news is the drain part is fixed.
I bolted everything up and its good to go. (at least I hope so)
I have also heard of people putting NOS pills in the line to restrict it.
Dont know if that would work. Sounds kinda weird to me.
I might just try it without a restrictor and see how it does.
Well the good news is the drain part is fixed.
I bolted everything up and its good to go. (at least I hope so)
lol, thats good to hear. I've also heard of people usin some type of shut off valve(just not closing it all the way), not sure which kind though, maybe one from ace or home depot







