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Burke 12-17-2003 10:01 AM

Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC???
 
its a d16z6 built by JE. here is a short description. Fully ported head, over-sized valves, 3 angle valve job, titanium retainers, crower turbo cam, AEM ajustable cam gear, copper head gasket, JE pistons, block gaurd, billet rods, balenced and blueprinted, too much to list.
got a big t3/t04e and would like to hit 400whp and some 11's. got a zex dry kit that im gonna slap on it to spray in the ic when needed https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif So far im gonna tune uberdata as far as i can and hope i can make it. I figure on winding out the motor to like 8000-8500 rpm. depends where i make power.
So how far can the stock ignition take me. should i upgrade and if to, to what??
Thanks
Burke

Burke 12-18-2003 07:31 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (Burke)
 
bump

TurbodCX 12-18-2003 07:40 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (Burke)
 
I dont really know for 400whp, but i made 343whp on stock ignition with a plug gap of 24 thousands.

I just recently bought a MSD Digital 6+ and that is what i will be using to fire my car at 450whp, and i will have a 2 step now also https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Brian

Burke 12-18-2003 10:14 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (TurbodCX)
 
how much does that msd tend to run??? I may pick one up if they arent all that expensive. might as well spend the money now than later
are the stock wires or some bosch replacements good for that much hp?

Thanks!!!


TurbodCX 12-19-2003 04:44 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (Burke)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Burke &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much does that msd tend to run??? I may pick one up if they arent all that expensive. might as well spend the money now than later
are the stock wires or some bosch replacements good for that much hp?

Thanks!!!

</TD></TR></TABLE>

I paid $279 for the Box through Summit racing.

I am currently using some Accel Thundersports,but i am looking into getting a set of magnecores or MSD wires.

Brian

ladysman 12-19-2003 05:07 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (TurbodCX)
 
I use MSD as well on my SOHC setup. You can get the MSD 6a box for like $140 I think.

Brian, I have magnecores and like them. They also made me a custom wire for the coil for like $8.

Burke 12-19-2003 06:05 AM

Re: Do I need more ignition for my 400whp SOHC??? (ladysman)
 
cool, i will definately look into that
Thanks!
Burke

kaimo 12-19-2003 08:10 AM

Hello.

what do you guys think, what will be a best cam for turbo sohc about 500hp.
We dynoed a 402hp with stock cam and valves, comp 8,5, stock head gasket.

ladysman 12-19-2003 10:34 AM

Re: (kaimo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaimo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hello.

what do you guys think, what will be a best cam for turbo sohc about 500hp.
We dynoed a 402hp with stock cam and valves, comp 8,5, stock head gasket.</TD></TR></TABLE>

If we knew, I think we would all have one. I am not sure. Brian just got the Zex 59300 cam to try out. He is our Guinea Pig. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

norcalcrx 12-19-2003 10:38 AM

Re: (ladysman)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If we knew, I think we would all have one. I am not sure. Brian just got the Zex 59300 cam to try out. He is our Guinea Pig. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif Somebody has to be https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif Go for it Brian

TurbodCX 12-19-2003 11:08 AM

Re: (ladysman)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ladysman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

If we knew, I think we would all have one. I am not sure. Brian just got the Zex 59300 cam to try out. He is our Guinea Pig. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

It is going in tonight guys. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif I hope to atleast have the ignition and the cam done tonight, and i want to try to breakthe cam in also. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif


The cam looks very nice!! Well built peice, thanks Comp. Cams https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Brian

kaimo 12-20-2003 08:30 AM

Re: (TurbodCX)
 
what obout a Grower turbo cam?
what head gaskets do you guys use in D16Z6?

ladysman 12-20-2003 08:38 AM

Re: (kaimo)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kaimo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what obout a Grower turbo cam?
what head gaskets do you guys use in D16Z6?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Know nothing about the cam.
I use a cometic HP.

AVATAR 12-20-2003 08:56 AM

Re: (ladysman)
 
nice threadjack . . . https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

Kataku2K3 12-20-2003 08:58 AM

Re: (ladysman)
 
We get a lot of STOCK B series motors coming in for turbo installs and tuning, just about all of them make less power (on an internally stock motor we normally only run 7-9lbs.) 300-350whp max and run aftermarket ignitions... I just talked to CheezeFrog (Cary) the other day about his old EJ6, he said it was running a stock ignition just fine (making ~400whp)... Most of our customers may not need aftermarket ignitions but we leave the choice up to them... I'm sure they would run fine without it but you'll definately know when you need it... Brian just has a HVC box/coil in his car and once he hit ~550whp it would start blowing out the spark... We normally gap ~0.024-0.028", I would definately recommend the MSD Digi 6 and 7 boxes, everything is integrated and it stays a lot cleaner (just what I like)... Good Luck

Burke 12-20-2003 10:25 AM

Re: (Kataku2K3)
 
Thanks for the help guys! https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/embeer.gif
I really appreciate it.
I'll see how it runs on the stock ignition first and then if doesnt work out well, ill get one of the msd's
THanks again all!!


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