so here's a quick rundown on what i have
stock bore b16
9:1 compression
gsr cams
precision 1000cc injectors
garret t3/t4 50 trim
edlebrock victor x intake
e85
tuned on hondata s200


...at 14psi its making 260whp 160ft/lbtq... i dont wanna get lost in the numbers game but my god that seems rediculously low. i dont know exactly what kind of timing he is running, but maybe he is running super conservative? I was expecting around 330

 

you may need a bigger turbo with less backpressure to make 330 on 14 lb? I'm no expert so I dunno

what kind of dyno did you put down 260 on?

do you have the dyno chart?

 

oh, it has full 3" from turbo back. i dont have the chart, it's still at the tuners. i just got that phone call today telling me what he has so far, and my heart dropped

 

Doesnt sound right. Even a stock B16 should make over 300 on 93 at that boost level

 

timing or the dyno. use to seeing 300-330whp with a 50trim, b16 and 14psi

 

dyno is a Dynocom DC1800x

 

seems very low...who's tuning it?

 

1 point drop in cr with conservative timing.

how high was he revving it if you know?

 

Get the dyno graph and then we can help. Pics of the setup will also help

 

For comparative purposes I made 365WHP and 225TQ at 18PSI Stock B16 GSR Cams 60 Trim T3/T04E

 

8k. He said it was still going up, but I don't want to rev past 8k

 

And he said it makes the most power at 22* timing

 

Post your dyno graph. Only way to really tell.

 

Needs better cams..

Whats the timing @ now.. and AFR.. sounds a tad bit low.. but numbers are numbers.

 

I have a million dollar question..... How does it drive ?

 

I dont see why it would need better cams? I made more power with b16 cams a couple years ago. Alot of guys are making well over 600whp with gsr cams as well.

I say bring it to the track and see what it runs.

 

I dont have the graph car is 60 miles away so everything I know is what was told to me on the phone

 

Is there anyway he can send it to you? Really hard to tell with out more detail

 

 

trap speed will tell us all..

 

that is for sure very low for an e85 fuel. Post up the graph I'll like to see it to believe it. Although 50trim isn't big enought but the fuel should help a whole lot.

 

seriously...im not even going to get started.


get it too the track and see the trap speeds.

 

^^^^ Exactly, you can't just go off figuers if you havent even drove the car lol. How do we know this dyno does'nt just give extremely low numbers out ? A dyno is just a tuning tool at the end of the day....

 

Who's tuning it? If its adrenaline you found your problem and I recommend removing your car from there shop before you are back to square one.

If its lowe performance his "John's" dyno is accurate compared to others my car has been on...i made 6 less whp on lowe's dyno "All motor" but that day it was also 100+ degree's and i drove the car to the dyno...so id say its spot on compared to the 3 other dyno's my car's been on.

Numbers seem low to me for that engine on that boost level on e85 but a dyno graph would help. Have him email it to you then post it here.

 

its a 50 trim turbo. its not going to do much.