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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:48 PM
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most turbo kits do not come with garret turbos but the edelbrock kit with the gt28r or the greddy kit with a t25. best place to look for a reliable turbo kit is go-autoworks.com. as for methanol injection its not a necessity.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:52 PM
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most turbo kits do not come with garret turbos but the edelbrock kit with the gt28r or the greddy kit with a t25. best place to look for a reliable turbo kit is go-autoworks.com. as for methanol injection its not a necessity.
okay not a necessity, i see, but for the future would that be a good mod that will add hp? or just not worth the bother at all
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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doesnt the meth kit add alot of hp by cooling?
You shouldn't need to ask ME if you did your research.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:07 PM
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You shouldn't need to ask ME if you did your research.
im asking for your knowledge, with my research i saw that it says id "gain around 50 whp by cooling "
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:12 PM
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But why do you need it if this is just a 350hp build? Overkill.

Dude. Go to the place that will be tuning this and talk to them.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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Didn't I tell you to take everything off that list? First off you gave us a goal already, 350 to the wheels. Next, your state's laws regarding emissions. If your state has them, I can't help you. If not, you're golden.
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http://www.go-autoworks-store.com/gocotuki.html
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Didn't I tell you to take everything off that list? First off you gave us a goal already, 350 to the wheels. Next, your state's laws regarding emissions. If your state has them, I can't help you. If not, you're golden.
its FL but i mean i dont really care lol
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Find a reputable tuner and talk to them.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:20 PM
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d16 block with vitara pistons
One thing i can tell by the items you have listed is you have a **** TON of reading to do yet before you think about purchasing anything. None of us woke up with this knowledge one day, you just have to research and learn.
why are the 1000cc injectors too big?
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Even though they can't hurt they are overkill. If you're going to question every suggestion we give you just end the thread now.
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okay so i talked to Guessohw (built the car that im basing my build on) and came up with this parts list. any info or comments would be appreciated

block with vitara pistons
y8 vtec head thats ported and polished with retainers and springs
aem stage 4 cam and aem cam gear
eagle rods
gates racing timing belt
throttle body thats ported and polished
72 mm throttle body
1000cc injectors and aem fuel rail (only because it costs the same as the 750cc)
oem honda gaskets
arp head studs
oem fuel pump
walbro fuel pump
msd distributor
4 bar map sensor
electronic boost control
ex transmission


any suggestions? am i missing anything or should i exchange something for something else?
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Bearings.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 05:58 PM
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Bearings.
YES! you are correct i just realized im missing 3 things
bearings (any in particular?)
clutch (i was told act is good and cheap)
and motor mounts (any in particular?)
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:00 PM
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ACL.
Motor mounts are not necessary but couldn't hurt. Hardrace is what I run.
Clutch. Exedy. Get the clutch that will hold the power. Don't buy into that "Stage" crap.
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:35 PM
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ACL.
Motor mounts are not necessary but couldn't hurt. Hardrace is what I run.
Clutch. Exedy. Get the clutch that will hold the power. Don't buy into that "Stage" crap.
okay thank you so much
should i get a whole bearing kit? like this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACURA-HONDA-...sories&vxp=mtr
or is this all i need?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ACL-Race-STD...sories&vxp=mtr
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by 98.4DR.EK.D16
stock rods (should i change them to eagle?)(is that neccessary?
I have blown stock z6 rods at 16psi and blown them at 8psi so I would replace them.. If you go with H-beam you will have to notch the block
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...building_tips/
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y8 vtec head ported and polished with retainers and springs.
stage 4 aem cam and aem cam gear
hes selling me all that for 750 (good buy?)
I have over a grand in my head alone, and its not ported and polished. Yes I would say good buy.
Stage 4 cam? Are you going to drive this on the road? or is it for the track only. With a stage 4 cam your idle will be f@%ked.
If this is going to be a street car I would go stage one or 2.

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individual throttle body ported and polished- 300
72 mm throttle body -100 (should i get a throttle body spacer?)
So you have or want an ITB.?
ITB are not for boost. I would just go with a Skunk2 intake manifold and no bigger then a 70mm TB. Too big of a TB can possibly chock the engine out.

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1000cc injectors and aem fuel rail- 560
Anything bigger then 660 on a D16 is just crazy, there is no need for it.
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oil pump- ive heard i should get a ported and shimmed oil pump?
Yes port the oil pump and shimming it will make create higher oil pressure this sometimes is not friendly to the seals. 1 shim should be OK, but keep an eye on it the oil pressure. Here is some info
http://www.onecamonly.com/showthread.php?t=478
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...building_tips/
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walbro 255 fuel pump-115
Yes you want this but if want to utilize the 1000cc injectors you will need a bigger fuel pump. Again there is no need for injectors bigger then 660 on a D16.

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next question, ive heard good things about hondata (good choice or not?)
Hondata has a lot of support and options. the s300 can be tuned on the fly, this is a major plus. If you got the bucks go for a AEM standalone.
I have eCtune, Its basically chrome modified. There are a lot of base maps you can download. Not as user friendly as Hondata but cheaper and gets the job done just as well.
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okay so i talked to Guessohw (built the car that im basing my build on) and came up with this parts list. any info or comments would be appreciated

block with vitara pistons
y8 vtec head thats ported and polished with retainers and springs
aem stage 4 cam and aem cam gear Why stage 4? Do you have a link to the cam?
eagle rods
gates racing timing belt
throttle body thats ported and polished
72 mm throttle body
1000cc injectors and aem fuel rail (only because it costs the same as the 750cc)
oem honda gaskets
arp head studs
oem fuel pump
walbro fuel pump
msd distributor Noithing wrong with stock here.
4 bar map sensor
electronic boost control
ex transmission


any suggestions? am i missing anything or should i exchange something for something else?
What are you going to do for tuning? You shouldn't need a fuel rail. What about a regular?
What are you going to do for the exhuast, open down pipe?
Clutch? Stock flywheel? Valve seals?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:50 PM
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Originally Posted by 98.4DR.EK.D16
power level goal would be around 350 whp
Where did u get this number from?
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Old Mar 2, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Alfa Q the 2nd
I have blown stock z6 rods at 16psi and blown them at 8psi so I would replace them.. If you go with H-beam you will have to notch the block
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...building_tips/
I have over a grand in my head alone, and its not ported and polished. Yes I would say good buy.
Stage 4 cam? Are you going to drive this on the road? or is it for the track only. With a stage 4 cam your idle will be f@%ked.
If this is going to be a street car I would go stage one or 2.

So you have or want an ITB.?
ITB are not for boost. I would just go with a Skunk2 intake manifold and no bigger then a 70mm TB. Too big of a TB can possibly chock the engine out.


Anything bigger then 660 on a D16 is just crazy, there is no need for it.

Yes port the oil pump and shimming it will make create higher oil pressure this sometimes is not friendly to the seals. 1 shim should be OK, but keep an eye on it the oil pressure. Here is some info
http://www.onecamonly.com/showthread.php?t=478
http://www.theoldone.com/articles/d_...building_tips/

Yes you want this but if want to utilize the 1000cc injectors you will need a bigger fuel pump. Again there is no need for injectors bigger then 660 on a D16.

Hondata has a lot of support and options. the s300 can be tuned on the fly, this is a major plus. If you got the bucks go for a AEM standalone.
I have eCtune, Its basically chrome modified. There are a lot of base maps you can download. Not as user friendly as Hondata but cheaper and gets the job done just as well.
ive seen the head block combo running and the idle is abit weird but not too bad, and yes its my dd

and no sorry that was wrong its not an itb its just ported and polished

only reason im planning on the 1000cc injectors and aem fuel rail is cus they come in a pack

so i should keep stock fuel rail (not a high flow one?)
and get 660cc injectors?
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Where did u get this number from?
honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2974744

im basing my build off of him and he made 348 whp
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honda-tech.com/showthread.php?t=2974744

im basing my build off of him and he made 348 whp
Good answer.
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Then y r u wondering injector size read what he runs. Figure your trim size. 350 whp is a big number for a build u know nothing about
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What are you going to do for tuning? You shouldn't need a fuel rail. What about a regular?
What are you going to do for the exhuast, open down pipe?
Clutch? Stock flywheel? Valve seals?
stage 4 because it comes with the head im buying
tuning i was planing on hondata
fuel rail is only being upgraded cus it comes with the injectors
i was thinking exedy clutch
i was thinking of keeping stock flywheel
and idk about valve seals or open down pipes(more info plz)
your help is appreciated!
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Originally Posted by SKAVENGER88
Then y r u wondering injector size read what he runs. Figure your trim size. 350 whp is a big number for a build u know nothing about
he runs 1000cc injectors which is what ive been saying but everyone says theyre overkill lol
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