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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 10:48 AM
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Hey Guys,
This is a 97 prelude sh block that I took out of my friends car, and i was wondering if this thing was worth fixing and sleeving, the motor threw a rod and thats what caused all of the damidge you see there, in one of the pictures you can see that the water jacket area was penetraded but I though they could just tig that up and just build up the area....

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:06 AM
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iw ould throw it out in the trash... adi

look to be excessive damage to the lower portion of the block. If you weld i am not srue how it will stand up
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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I agree w/ viren.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:27 AM
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Ok, but they only problem i have with that is where in holly hell am I gona find a Prelude SH (****) block at????

Please Help!!!

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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The answer lies in EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BAY!
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 12:01 PM
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No blocks on ebay my friend, I need one now...

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 07:00 PM
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Anyone else!!!

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 07:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Anyone else!!!

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what would you rather do? put a block in after you dish out 800 to sleeve it to find it break on you in a month or less, then have to find another block, sleeve it (total costing over 1600) then have it done right after twice the down time, twice the money, and twice the heart aches?

get it done right hte first time
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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Default Re: Is this block worth fixing/sleeving (newgsr)

Well you could buy the block from honda...

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...L+PAN

$1400+

or you can buy a JDM block from an importer.
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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Well thats why i'm asking if the thing can be fixed, and want more oppinions on it because right now I think its gona be pritty hard to find a h4 block and pay money for that and than on top of that get it sleeved, plus the down time of that whole thing is not something my friend really wants.

So I'm just trying to find the middle of this all, who knows maybe we will end up buying another block...

Well buying something from a jdm importer would work but I need a block that is gona work with the atts system that the SH prelude has.

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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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def get a new block.. as far as where etc, we'll keep ur eyes and ears open
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 08:18 PM
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http://www.car-parts.com

best search engine ever

here's one in WI
http://car-part.com/cgi-bin/search.cgi
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Old Nov 12, 2003 | 09:38 PM
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What's up Adi if you can get it down here i know of a couple of people that can look at it and tell you whatÂ’s up. They can also sleeve it down here so you wouldn't have to send it all over the country.

Also do you have a b16, b18c1/5 head for sell my ******* oil pump blow up and fucked my head up!

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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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Whats up Adi. That block is fixable, my motor looked like it went through a giant blender and it came back from DPR (head) / RS Machines (block) looking perfect. So far so good, and I don't expect any problems out of it. However, it took a LONG time as they had to keep rewelding, then sand it down, over a long period of time multiple times to get it just right. In the end it took longer and probably cost them more than they were hoping. They'll be hesitant to do it but if you harrass them they'll take care of it, pressure test everything, and make sure it will come back to ready to be boosted. They also couldn't save the crank so I had to replace it but that was pretty cheap. Anyway, although I think it is fixable, I think it would take longer and be more of a hassle than its worth.

Call up some machine shops and see if they have a block laying around. Between RS, GE, etc one of them may have one already done that they're looking to unload.
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Old Nov 13, 2003 | 10:45 PM
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Thanks for all of the suggestions you guys I really appricate all of your input, I have been talking to earl and he is definitely going to see what dan benson can do for me as far as fixing and sleeving the block.

Paul, that link didn't work but I did do a search on there and it only brought up one full engine for 800, but if i was gona spend that much I would just throw that whole engine in and call it a day.

Nathan, I took your suggestion and emailed all 3 of the big boys but have only gotten a reply from ge and they don't have any, so two more to go.

Ross, I don't have any spare heads laying around besides the ls head and the 2 (gsr and si) heads but those I have to use, on the integra and another motor i'm building for my self..

Thanks again,
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:26 AM
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I have a 97 h22 block sleeved from GE ready to go. IM me if interested.

You can use your friends block as a nice paper weight.

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 04:59 AM
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just to let you know there is no such thing as a SH block . or an SH motor for that matter
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:07 AM
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Default Re: Is this block worth fixing/sleeving (Hella_JDM)

ekb18c you got pm....

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hella_JDM &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just to let you know there is no such thing as a SH block . or an SH motor for that matter</TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you sure that the atts will bolt up to any of the h22a blocks??

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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 01:13 PM
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I showed the pix to Benson and he said no problem on fixing it with his sleeve install. It might take a little internal welding also, however but he said it will be as good as new.
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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wow, pretty impressive if Dan can fix that
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 01:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by newgsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are you sure that the atts will bolt up to any of the h22a blocks??
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You're not trying to boost with the ATTS intact, are you?
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I showed the pix to Benson and he said no problem on fixing it with his sleeve install. It might take a little internal welding also, however but he said it will be as good as new.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thats good to hear and confirms what I was thinking. Make sure you go with a good shop on this one because turn around time could be what kills you... Good luck man!
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I showed the pix to Benson and he said no problem on fixing it with his sleeve install. It might take a little internal welding also, however but he said it will be as good as new.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cause Dan is the MAN! Id like to see some before and after pics
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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yo dawg, my boy from KC brought a non sh block and that **** ain't even close to the the sh block. so your comment "just to let you know there is no such thing as a SH block . or an SH motor for that matter" is totally wack because this **** is not gona work!!

Anyways, I think what i'm gona do is buy a 92-96 block and convert the car into a non atts transmission car.

I think it will be a lot cheaper in the long run and the car will save some weight..

Adi
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Old Nov 14, 2003 | 11:08 PM
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Yes, sir we have been boosting on it for about 6 months and its been fine untill it just threw a rod. The car dynoed at 260whp and it was all good till that rod went.


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