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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 12:50 AM
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Default back from the dyno, car is not making power HELP !!

after a long painful build finally i got the car tuned after having misfiring problem for ages

and i still got dissapointed with the final power figure

its only making 335whp @ 15psi

b18c
81.5mm 9:1 JE pistons
Eagle Rods
JG manifold
70mm TB
M&W pro 10 ignition
sc61 ---- > S housing with .63 a/r turbine housing and P-trim wheel

so pissed off
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:14 AM
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what are you tuning with? afr's? timing? size of DP and exhaust?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:32 AM
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autronic computer
3" downpipe - open exhaust ( e-cutout )

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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:36 AM
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what are plugs gapped to? did you check for boost leaks? valves adjusted correctly? Do a leakdown lately?.... start there atleast
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:19 AM
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what kind of dyno? happen to be a dyno dynamics or something?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 04:47 AM
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every dyno reads different, some dynos if they are not setup right can read really up

also check for boost leaks
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 05:10 AM
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what injectors are you running? who is ur t uner?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 06:05 AM
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timing set properly?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:46 PM
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what manifold (log, short runner, topmount)? what turbo? a properly spec'ed turbo kit can make a world of difference.

if you had a rev-hard kit, i'd say you on the money. if your running full-race then i'd say your way low.

??????
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 01:54 PM
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What were your misfire issues caused by?
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 03:42 PM
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Give us a little more info on your setup, maybe we can narrow something down
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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post the dyno graph and the full setup
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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up the boost. i have a similar sized turbo and it did about the came until we hit 17psi, then the power jumped exponetially. maybe ur not in the efficiency yet
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 08:16 PM
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i kinda doubt it.. the last car i did w/an sc61 made 340 at 8psi
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:23 PM
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we assumed the misfiring was caused by an old tired dizzy cap and rotor ( they looked bad anyway )
so to save me from more headache i just told him to install m&w pro10 + crane coil, well that fixed the misfiring

my turbo setup is completely custom, heres my full setup:

81.5mm 9:1 JE pistons
Eagle Rods
Darton solid sleeves
SuperTech dual valve springs + retainers
ITR cams
Adj cam gears
JG manifold
70mm TB
SC61 turbo S housing + P-trim wheel in .63 a/r housing
custom high mount turbo manifold
880cc precision injectors + walbro pump

it was dynoed on a rolling dyno type ( dyno dynamics ?? )
car seems going really hard it just the final power figure really really dissapointed me
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 09:26 PM
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forgot to mention plugs are NGK platinum heat range 8, not quite sure about the gap tho
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Old Dec 14, 2006 | 10:04 PM
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Hp/TQ numbers are exactly that. Numbers are numbers. If the car feels strong and you're happy with it, then the numbers shouldn't matter.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyber ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">forgot to mention plugs are NGK platinum heat range 8, not quite sure about the gap tho</TD></TR></TABLE>

OMG. get those POS plugs out of your engine. NGK V-Power 7's (copper core) .025gap pn: 4091 i believe. and their only $2ea.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 05:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wade &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what are plugs gapped to? did you check for boost leaks? valves adjusted correctly? Do a leakdown lately?.... start there atleast</TD></TR></TABLE>


im going to have to side with wade on this one...

valves adjusted correctly ?

how old are your injectors?

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by trickeng &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

OMG. get those POS plugs out of your engine. NGK V-Power 7's (copper core) .025gap pn: 4091 i believe. and their only $2ea. </TD></TR></TABLE>

never run platinum plugs either.....
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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I would take it to the track. Obviously you were expecting a strong 11 sec. car if 335whp was depressing. Run it man, you'll feel alot better if you hit your goal on the track. And personally, I'd say it's more braggin' rights to have super times with such low dyno #'s.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 06:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cyber ITR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">after a long painful build finally i got the car tuned after having misfiring problem for ages

and i still got dissapointed with the final power figure

its only making 335whp @ 15psi

b18c
81.5mm 9:1 JE pistons
Eagle Rods
JG manifold
70mm TB
M&W pro 10 ignition
sc61 ---- &gt; S housing with .63 a/r turbine housing and P-trim wheel

so pissed off </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you would, post up the dyno..

Run someone w/a car you think would be close..see what happens...??

But I do think for the mods the #'s are low, but track and mph tell a different story..

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Dyno dynamics read typifcally 15-17% lower than dynojets.... post a graph!
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 07:38 AM
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Don't mean to thread jack, but why not run platinum? What about denso iridium? Thanks
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:19 AM
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denso iridum are fragile.. dont run em... in the event that you do get a little detonation the insulator will break and trash stuff.

i run ngk iridum in everything, something making over 300 on pump gas id run an 8 heat range.
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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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I thought irridium was mainly for plug life? One reason I ask is because all the plug info I've seen leads to that, and my friend's IS300 only had to change out the oem iridium plugs at 45k.
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