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gSr_jB 05-06-2004 07:42 PM

b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power???
 
Hi I am currently running a Precision t3/t04e 60ar compressor 63ar turbine 57trim.

My setup is the following:

Inlinepro Manifold
Arias 9:1 Pistons
Eagle connecting rods
Tial 35mm Waste.
precision big front mount
HKS SSQ bov
Custom 2.5 dp
2.5 intercooler piping.
Walbora 255 fuel pump
Vortech FMU 12:1
Vafc
Inlinepro Cam gears
Apexi Dunk Exhaust
RC 370cc injectors
Inlinepro STainless steel valves.

It put down 283whp and 205lbtq on 12psi running rich (to be safe as well)

My question now is...How can I get more power out of this that an everyday average turbo gsr doesn't have? I would like 350whp daily off 93octane. Can this be accomplished? If so how? Any suggestions or previous experience help would be appreciated. I just want to be faster then an average turbo gsr. Thanks.

tommyten 05-06-2004 07:43 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (gSr_jB)
 
get rid of the fmu and vfac...IMO

gSr_jB 05-06-2004 07:44 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (hatchling)
 
I plan on going hondata....but what are ways of getting more serious power? using the turbo i currently have as well.

vaporboy12 05-06-2004 07:45 PM

bigger injectors hondata and tuning lots of tuning

gSr_jB 05-06-2004 07:46 PM

Re: (vaporboy12)
 
yes bigger injectors hondata + tuning..but i'm sure alot of turbo gsr's on the streets have just that as well..I want more. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

m R g S r 05-06-2004 07:47 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (hatchling)
 
I was reading on here that the fmu doesn't rob too much power, as long as you have the air fuel ratio correct. But yea, some more in depth tuning would add more power, the kind you can get from uberdata or some type of standalone.
Also, that 2.5 dp is probally stealing some power. What exhaust are you running? Are you using a cat? How about just turning up the boost, you have pistons and rods, why not run 15psi?

gSr_jB 05-06-2004 07:49 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (m R g S r)
 
I believe i was told running 15psi daily off pump gas on an afc would run pretty dirty which is why.

AlphaKennyWun 05-06-2004 07:51 PM

Re: (vaporboy12)
 
Like everyone else I would say a standalone and tuning first. Next you can get a 3" exhaust, skunk 2 IM or JG IM and 65 mm TB. Lastly a minor p & p, .5mm oversized valves, CTR or ITR cams.

keebler65 05-06-2004 07:52 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (gSr_jB)
 
yeah with an FMU i'm sure your fuel pressures would be quite high at 15psi. sounds like its time for a standalone https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

edit: i just realized that you're limited with the stock map sensor max (12psi or so) as well. if you run a standalone, you can upgrade to a map sensor that reads a bigger range (3bar, etc)

gSr_jB 05-06-2004 07:53 PM

Re: (Turbo Chris)
 
Nice numbers Turbo Chris..what setup u running and what psi?

AlphaKennyWun 05-06-2004 08:00 PM

Re: (gSr_jB)
 
Thanks. 14 psi daily for a year so far. 10.5- 11.0 a/f (conservative because I have a heavy foot) Once I get the second part of the mods I listed above and tune to 12.0 a/f I should get 350whp +

B18C 81mm bore
Darton deck
9:1 JE pistons
Crower rods
750cc injectors
hondata 2b
precision SC 61 turbo
spearco intercooler 24 x 8 x 3.5
SFP turbo manifold
Tial 40 mm
hks racing bov
Clutchmaster 3 clutch
mbc
Cometic headgasket
2.5 downpipe
2.25 greddy exhaust


jDMJeRk 05-06-2004 08:02 PM

save your self some money and get uberdata, get some new injectors and maybe upgrade your piping to 3'

m R g S r 05-06-2004 08:07 PM

Re: (jdmjerk)
 
Do all that, but I still don't think you'll be faster than the average turbo gsr, because a lot of people take their time to piece together a kit and do it the right way.
And if I knew a secret that would make my car faster than someone else's with equal mods, I don't think I'd share it.

tommyten 05-06-2004 08:34 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (gSr_jB)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gSr_jB &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I just want to be faster then an average turbo gsr. Thanks.</TD></TR></TABLE>

well, in that case like Arturbo and many other expierenced members in this board have said... you have to think outside the box... dont do what everyone else is doing...dont be a follower or you will end up asking this same question again eventually... yeah, you want to make some good power but if you could put all of it to the ground then you would really be tearing some shit up & beating cars with more hp https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif

patdemps 05-06-2004 08:49 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (hatchling)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchling &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

well, in that case like Arturbo and many other expierenced members in this board have said... you have to think outside the box... dont do what everyone else is doing...dont be a follower or you will end up asking this same question again eventually... yeah, you want to make some good power but if you could put all of it to the ground then you would really be tearing some shit up & beating cars with more hp https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif </TD></TR></TABLE>

Work on the suspension to make it perfect.
LSD if you don't have one.
Motor Mounts, etc.

anything you can do to successfully put that power to the ground.

Also, as everyone has said above Hondata/Uberdata, tuning..tuning...tuning!

A bigger exhaust/downpipe wouldn't hurt.

AspectIndustries 05-06-2004 08:53 PM

Re: b18c1 Turbo....Ways of getting additional power??? (patdemps)
 
Larger Injectors and definately a larger exhaust. 3" downpipe all the way back. https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif


TheShodan 05-07-2004 07:48 AM

Larger injectors, Hondata or Power FC, and since you've already done pistons, rods, etc... You've almost come to the point where safety would say that it's time to sleeve the block..

FwdCivicHatch 05-07-2004 09:12 AM

Re: (TheShodan)
 
he doesn't need to sleeve the block for a while. If you don't get some sort of Stand Alone then your not going to much further with this.........


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