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Old May 13, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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hey whats up everyone, i just got off the phone with my tuner .. and he scared me

i have a stock d16y8 that i'm going to turbo, he was tellin me that with stock cast internals .. any time my engine knocks once its turbod .. i can say goodbye to it.

he then informed me about different air density .. so he was sayin since my car is gunna be tuned in the mountains ... 10 psi here .. may be like 15 psi at sea level.. and runnig 15psi on a 10psi tune is not good.

so what do i do about this? i want to drive my car anywhere in the world without risking detonating my engine just because of air density. this was the first time i've heard about this ... what do u guys do? i wanted to go to the beach this summer.. but now i guess i can't b/c i dont wanna blow up my car .. wtf?EW?!!
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Old May 14, 2008 | 04:37 AM
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Default Re: air density psi question ... (pjr710)

your tuner is gay. unless he's tuning it on the top of mount everest, there's no way in hell the atmospheric pressure is 5 psi difference. 2nd, if its being tuned for 10 psi, the little difference in atmospheric pressure (or air density) will not have that great of an impact. i'd suggest taking the car somewhere else.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 05:27 AM
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seriously. Besides the fact that air density has more to do with humidity and temperature than anything......you could have an air density of sea level depending on the conditions of the day, barometric pressure, humidity, and temp.

Aside from the fact that State college, PA can't be any more than 2k ft above sea level, at best. I'm willing to bet standard pressure there on any given day is something like 14.5psi, vs. 14.7psi at sea level, lol.

That tuner is blowing billowing shitsmoke out of his ***. Avoid him.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:03 AM
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Default Re: air density psi question ... (chimmike)

hahah .. well to his defense he never said the difference would be that big .. i used that as an example.. hes actually a really good guy and knows his ****. so you guys are sayin i dont really have anything to worry about then? as far as goin from the east coast to the west coast w/ my car?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:31 AM
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if he's a good tuner and keeps a good, safe, but not overly rich afr throughout the range, especially partial throttle boost, you should be fine.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 12:49 PM
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yea he seems to know his **** .. i'm gunna get a street tune .. does that matter .. he said a street tune will be fine
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Old May 14, 2008 | 07:05 PM
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drive the 3 hours and go see jeff evans for tuning
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Old May 14, 2008 | 08:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blackeg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">drive the 3 hours and go see jeff evans for tuning</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:09 PM
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yea jeff seems like the man .. but how would i drive for 3 hours if i get most of my kit on my car?? just dont install the injectors?

and what advantage will i have if i go to jeff?
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Old May 14, 2008 | 10:41 PM
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1) your engine wont knock if you get it tuned properly
2) if its tuned at 10 psi in the mountains, even if you come down to sea level, your wastegate will still regulate it to 10 psi, it wont let it go over for what your tuned at.
3) what will you get if you tune with jeff evans? youl get a guy who wont tell you your motor will blow up if you drive down hill.
4) go get a tune somewhere else.
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Old May 14, 2008 | 11:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Glove &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
3) what will you get if you tune with jeff evans? youl get a guy who wont tell you your motor will blow up if you drive down hill.</TD></TR></TABLE>

LMAO!!!! Thanks for the new Sig
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Old May 15, 2008 | 09:09 AM
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aight .. i'll have to think about it, i'm in scranton and jeff is like an hour away only ..not that bad
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Old May 15, 2008 | 11:36 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">aight .. i'll have to think about it, i'm in scranton and jeff is like an hour away only ..not that bad</TD></TR></TABLE>

shouldnt be much to think about, Jeff is the man
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