ACL Rod bearing width problems please help

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 05:50 PM
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Default ACL Rod bearing width problems please help

So I went to install my new pistons, rings, rods ect..

Put the 'b18c' acl rod bearing on my eagle rods, there not wide enough, and they have more space on one side than the other. There not even as wide as the oem ones that are on my factory rods. Any insight on this? It doesn't look right but what do I know.

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Old Dec 6, 2007 | 06:11 PM
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looks like you have ls rods so you need bearings for an ls
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:37 AM
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they have .5430 stamped on them, isnt that gsr rod length?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 10:35 AM
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Looks like the rod is a GSR rod, and I know for a fact GSR ACL's are skinnier than the LS ones. Call up Eagle and find out.
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 11:41 AM
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i would go with OEM Honda, i had problems with ACL's
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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What kind of problems?
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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ditto
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Old Dec 7, 2007 | 09:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted_B_Series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">they have .5430 stamped on them, isnt that gsr rod length?</TD></TR></TABLE>

GSR Rod length : 5.433

LS Rod Length : 5.394
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 02:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Minor Threat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Looks like the rod is a GSR rod, and I know for a fact GSR ACL's are skinnier than the LS ones. Call up Eagle and find out.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i'm allmost positive judging from his pictures its an ls rod cause of the width. a gsr rod is skinnier then a ls rod thus why the bearings are skinnier to! heres some pics i took to show you.

Ok first LS rod Vs. GSR rod
Notice the width diff in the caps
both have there own correct bearing



ok second LS cap with GSR bearing



Looks strikingly similar to the pics the OP posted

So i guess the biggest question for the OP is what crank do you have?
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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Hopefully he has a b18b crank, as those rods won't fit on the gsr crank. LS crank/rods ftw, more bearing surface, more rod material, more stroke. If you're not spining to 10k w/NOS, its the wya to go IMO.
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Old Dec 8, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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What about b16 rods ?

Edit : B16 has the same BE width.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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The rod manufacture says I have gsr rods, they also say that the part number of the acl bearings is right.. I don't really know what to do, something isnt right here.

Thanks for your all time.
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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can you measure the width of the big end of the rod?
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Old Dec 9, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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Tomorrow I will measure some things and see if the cap will fit onto the crank.
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Old Dec 10, 2007 | 08:04 PM
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On this topic, will these ACL bearings work with Eagle rods H-Beam for B16?

The parts numbers are:
Connecting Rod Bearing Set Standard Size(4B1910-STD)
Crankshaft Main Bearing Set Standard Size(5M1959-STD)
Thrust Washer Set Standard Size(1T1957-STD)


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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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They fit fine over the gsr crank I wonder if they will work.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 05:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yakuza &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">On this topic, will these ACL bearings work with Eagle rods H-Beam for B16?

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I have no idea dude you gotta measure for that. Honda OEM bearings are ACL.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted_B_Series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

They fit fine over the gsr crank I wonder if they will work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Of course they fit on the GSR crank there pins are the same diameter. Don't assemble your motor with that it's not wide enough.
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Old Dec 13, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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If your bearings look offset like that you need to get those pics to the people saying it's correct, cause that right there is fucked up....
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 12:23 AM
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They fit fine over the gsr crank I wonder if they will work. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The rod or the bearings?
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 01:17 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b20vtechb &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The rod or the bearings?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Both the rod and the bearing will fit the diameter of the GSR crankshaft because they have the same big end diameter as a b18a/b and b16.
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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The rod manufacture is going to replace the rods with new eagle h beams, the rod bearing notches are placed wrong. now I got to pull it all out of the engine, remove the spiral locks [ouch] remove the pistons, send em back for a replacement.

It just sucks about the spiral locks, there a complete bitch and not re usable [so I hear]
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Old Dec 14, 2007 | 11:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boosted_B_Series &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rod manufacture is going to replace the rods with new eagle h beams, the rod bearing notches are placed wrong. now I got to pull it all out of the engine, remove the spiral locks [ouch] remove the pistons, send em back for a replacement.

It just sucks about the spiral locks, there a complete bitch and not re usable [so I hear] </TD></TR></TABLE>

kind of off topic but how did you install your spiral locks?
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Old Dec 15, 2007 | 10:35 PM
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very carefully.. haha, you expand them about 3/4" to 1" like a spring. Feed one end into the slot and spiral it around till it bottoms out. there a bitch
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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as another person said earlier, OEM bearings are good too, a lot of ppl run OEM bearings on 500-600hp apps, so if you get fed up or impatient you could give the stock bearings a whirl if they are in good shape lol
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Old Dec 16, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Quad-Damage &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would go with OEM Honda, i had problems with ACL's</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SteamedRice &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">as another person said earlier, OEM bearings are good too, a lot of ppl run OEM bearings on 500-600hp apps, so if you get fed up or impatient you could give the stock bearings a whirl if they are in good shape lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

Honda bearings are ACL .
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