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motoxx644 09-07-2008 05:36 PM

300 shot!!!!
 
I am currently buliding my honda engine..... Has anyone EVER seen a 300 shot through any honda??? because that 300shot is my current goal P.S. Im not joking!

boostismycrack 09-07-2008 05:43 PM

Re: 300 shot!!!! (motoxx644)
 
kurt gordon used to run some pretty big nitrous setups back in the day, but I dunno about a 300 shot?

motoxx644 09-07-2008 05:47 PM

Re: 300 shot!!!! (boostismycrack)
 
what series block was he using??

DaveF 09-07-2008 05:50 PM

Re: 300 shot!!!! (motoxx644)
 
you better build an H series. haha

motoxx644 09-07-2008 05:55 PM

Re: 300 shot!!!! (DaveF)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you better build an H series. haha </TD></TR></TABLE>

no im goin with K

DaveF 09-07-2008 06:12 PM

Re: 300 shot!!!! (motoxx644)
 
good job baller

tony413 09-07-2008 06:35 PM

i hope it doesnt go pop. im in for results https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif

motoxx644 09-07-2008 06:43 PM

Re: (tony413)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i hope it doesnt go pop. im in for results https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...es/emsmile.gif</TD></TR></TABLE>

That makes 2 of us, haha

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sleved k24a4 block ported k20a2 head Heeaaavvvvyyy duty rods

nonvtecallmotor 09-07-2008 06:44 PM

Re: (tony413)
 
I've ran a 250hp worth on a b-series with pretty good results. I only ran it on the street tho.


You must have "everything" on the money with that kind of shot.

motoxx644 09-07-2008 06:52 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What rod do you plan to run?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its kinda up in the air at this point, If you have any suggestions on my build I am open to them

DaveF 09-07-2008 06:53 PM

Re: (motoxx644)
 
stock

motoxx644 09-07-2008 06:58 PM

Re: (DaveF)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock </TD></TR></TABLE>

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:00 PM

Re: (DaveF)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">stock </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont think that is very bright at all. you can run stock with that size shot, make sure you call me when you try that I would love to see that grenade blow!!

rorik 09-07-2008 07:03 PM

Near what rpm did you want to start spraying, at the lowest the motor will be from the downshift?
People do 500 whp on stock gsrs, right? So how big of a difference is there between n2o and forced induction? Higher in cylinder temps/egts? Since n2o has a higher % of oxygen vs nitrogen than normal air, I would assume it would burn significantly hotter.. (that's how a torch with a gas and pure o2 gets so hot)
In for info..

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:04 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hahah

I'm not really sure what is offered for the K's, but whatever Norris, Keller, and the other high hp K-heads run I'd follow suit.

Any reason for teh naWZ over boost?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have been doing all kinds of homework on this and it hasnt come up with much results on high sh shots, I am choosing to go with nitrous JUST because I dont want to deal with turbo lag.
I got a buddy with a 630whp ek and is running 10.5 and my cousin is running all motor at 260whp running 10.8's i just figure that nitrous is the wway to go

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:08 PM

Re: (rorik)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rorik &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Near what rpm did you want to start spraying, at the lowest the motor will be from the downshift?
People do 500 whp on stock gsrs, right? So how big of a difference is there between n2o and forced induction? Higher in cylinder temps/egts? Since n2o has a higher % of oxygen vs nitrogen than normal air, I would assume it would burn significantly hotter.. (that's how a torch with a gas and pure o2 gets so hot)
In for info..</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would start the spray outta the hole, I would love to see a STOCK gsr push 500hp.
There is a HUGE diff, between boost and no2 the boost has turbo lag
To lower the temps i would run 118octaine race gas to lower them

rorik 09-07-2008 07:18 PM

you didn't really answer my questions..lol
What rpm? And what are the differences inside the motor with the nitrous vs boost? Peak cylinder pressure, combustion temperature, egt, timing to reach mbt, etc.
And I have no info on this, but I suspect 118 doesn't lower your cylinder temps, at least not by much, mostly just your knock threshold.

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:28 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

At the track...there is no turbo lag. And turbo lag is traction control, gas milage, and just the nature of it. It's totally worth the wait.

I call BS on those numbers, 260 netted me an 11.9 in a 2300 lb car, your cousin would have to be 1400 lbs to do that haha He may have a bunch more power, what was his trap, and what was the EK's trap? That's the real dyno</TD></TR></TABLE>

its a 1600lb with him in the drivers seat 26in tall slicks tube chasis 92 gsr
we ran it today!
what do you e mean by trap?

tony413 09-07-2008 07:30 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
go look at bisimoto https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif they got some insane speeds for an all motor D-series

blwn95civic 09-07-2008 07:31 PM

Re: (motoxx644)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by motoxx644 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I would start the spray outta the hole, I would love to see a STOCK gsr push 500hp.
There is a HUGE diff, between boost and no2 the boost has turbo lag
To lower the temps i would run 118octaine race gas to lower them
</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boost is always there.... Leave with anti lag = No turbo lag https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif Boost is just a downshift away. But if you want a serious nitrous build then go for it, its your car https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

What chassis and motor is your friend with the 260whp running 10.5's using?

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:32 PM

Re: (tony413)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony413 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">go look at bisimoto https://honda-tech.com/forums/images...s/emsmilep.gif they got some insane speeds for an all motor D-series</TD></TR></TABLE>

were not talkin about D Series here

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:37 PM

Re: (blwn95civic)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by blwn95civic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Boost is always there.... Leave with anti lag = No turbo lag https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emwink.gif Boost is just a downshift away. But if you want a serious nitrous build then go for it, its your car https://honda-tech.com/forums/images/smilies/emthup.gif

What chassis and motor is your friend with the 260whp running 10.5's using?</TD></TR></TABLE>

hes running 10.8's and thats with a h22a motor b16 tranny and tube chasis 1992 gsr shell

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:43 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Traps are the trap speeds of the car.

Now...the 630 whp EK, what tire was he on and that was a street car? It's dead on for 140 mph in about 2400-2500 lbs of car</TD></TR></TABLE>

its just for the track, It was on a 24" slick.. were in the middle of changing that to 5 lug and then hacking the fenders and the front end to make a 28" tall 10" wide slick fit in there, its got full interior no weight reductions to speak of though
its a gsr

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:45 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> It's dead on for 140 mph </TD></TR></TABLE>

its stuck right about 134 due to lack of traction
thats the reasoning behind going with the 28s

motoxx644 09-07-2008 07:50 PM

Re: (rota92)
 
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rota92 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You're traction problems with 600 whp aren't from the slick size lol

You'll never spin those things.

But how heavy is that car? I'm trying to show you weight has a ton to do with it, and a boosted car is going to be way more worth while</TD></TR></TABLE>

the car roughly weighs 24 with driver, I would rather have a tire that i couldnt spin that you could dump the clutch at 8000 rpm and dead hook


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