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Chris Lee 10-22-2018 01:56 PM

B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
Hi guys new to the forum here. Hoping to get some insight on rebuilding my b16a. Spec of the engine before it dropped a valve was , bottom end (nippon oversized hi-comp pistons, acl bearings) head (skunk 2 tuner cams, ported and polished head dual valve springs p73 intake and throttle body, k20 injectors) now I dropped a valve on cylinder 4 intake side due to a snapped spring retainer and valve hit piston and did some considerable damage, I’ll post some pics to show you guys what sort of damage it did, but I’m wondering now what way to go about rebuilding it will I need to machine the block and can the head be reworked without replacing it etc etc. any help greatly appreciated.

TheShodan 10-23-2018 04:32 PM

Re: B16a dropped a valve.
 

Originally Posted by Chris Lee (Post 51760627)
Hi guys new to the forum here. Hoping to get some insight on rebuilding my b16a. Spec of the engine before it dropped a valve was , bottom end (nippon oversized hi-comp pistons, acl bearings) head (skunk 2 tuner cams, ported and polished head dual valve springs p73 intake and throttle body, k20 injectors) now I dropped a valve on cylinder 4 intake side due to a snapped spring retainer and valve hit piston and did some considerable damage, I’ll post some pics to show you guys what sort of damage it did, but I’m wondering now what way to go about rebuilding it will I need to machine the block and can the head be reworked without replacing it etc etc. any help greatly appreciated.

Can't say anything until we see something to say anything about..

Plus, a good machine shop would give the best opinion

Chris Lee 10-24-2018 01:59 PM

Re: B16a dropped a valve.
 

Originally Posted by TheShodan (Post 51761746)
Can't say anything until we see something to say anything about..

Plus, a good machine shop would give the best opinion

sorry the pics didn’t post for some reason I don’t know why they won’t post up

hondamark35 10-25-2018 12:19 PM

Re: B16a dropped a valve.
 

Originally Posted by TheShodan (Post 51761746)
Plus, a good machine shop would give the best opinion

This.

Honestly, no matter what sort of feedback you get here good or bad, the machine shop doing the work has the final say. their input will be based on available equipment, level of experience and any test results they deem applicable.

Cupajoe 10-29-2018 06:30 AM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
were you using titanium retainers or stock?

TheShodan 10-29-2018 07:43 AM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
Don't let the TItanium retainer lore get you. Myself and many others have used them daily for over 10-15 years. No issues. It's the install height and keepers that people don't pay attention to, which causes the uneven wear.

Cupajoe 10-29-2018 08:09 AM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
What do you mean by install height and keepers?

ive done retainers on my car before do you mean people putting in bad keepers and not adjusting the valves after?

TheShodan 10-29-2018 10:44 AM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 

Originally Posted by Cupajoe (Post 51766501)
What do you mean by install height and keepers?

ive done retainers on my car before do you mean people putting in bad keepers and not adjusting the valves after?

Correct. Especially when they use a bad installation correlation with "titanium valvespring retainers". My point was that titanium retainers can run a long time without the wear. It's all in the installation order and the proper lash with a good keeper. (valve lock)

Txdragon 10-29-2018 03:04 PM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
Interesting. I had a recent experience with Nippon pistons meeting valves.. I split #1 and #3 pistons parallel to the wrist pin after my timing belt slipped 3 teeth following a comp cam install. I pulled my head apart today and to my surprise, no valve or head damage was done at all. It shocked me that there wasn't even so much as a knick on a valve. Lol! May be a bit different in your particular case but.. Get those pics up!

TomCat39 10-29-2018 03:07 PM

Re: B16a dropped a valve. What's the next step?
 
If I may inquire, what is the sign of a bad keeper (valve lock)?


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