I have been through similar situation with another person, claimed to be a pioneer in the industry. I am sure the cases are similar they do great work when they want to if you are somebody they dont know or there is nothing in it for them besides a little bit of cash they could give a **** about their work. This has been true from my short experience with this stuff. Unless its their own car or its one of their top sponsored racers they could care less about the average customer.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SLO M3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hey ALLVtec,

It's because he used all the money he ripped off of everyone else to do research and build parts...... </TD></TR></TABLE>

I hate that **** when people say shops rip you off. You rip your self off, I work at a shop and it sucks to say but the majority of retail customers are some of the stupidest people in the world other people that work at shops know what IM talking about. All the people that usually complain about there stuff either grind the price down or beg for a better deal and when it does go bad or something happens to it they are the worst type of person to deal with cause all they do is bitch and complain cause they couldn't afford the product in the first place. Now put your self in the employees shoes, you gave a guy a deal he grind's you down probably bugged the **** out of you for a couple weeks before he even bought the product and now he is complaining like no tomorrow because he probably spent every last sent on what he bought now would you want to deal with this type of person NO. But we do anyway and no matter what you do its not good enough or fast enough service so you pretty much get tired of it and you really start to lag on him which sucks and what really sucks is the manufacture gives you the run around and the retail customer thinks your just blowing smoke. Moral of the story i believe in karma and in this industry it is really true you get what you pay for and usually when its a deal the **** never works out right and the customer is never satisfied

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If JG sucks so bad how did he have the fastes all motor car last year? Plus if his products suck why do you see his stuff on almost all of the 9sec - 11sec all motor cars, and for his turbo stuff i think jojo and other cars have proven his stuff to work good</TD></TR></TABLE>

none of those points you bring up have anything to do with customer service.

that is what people are complaining about, CS, not how fast his built engines have gone

 

ALLvtec obviously you have no clue what you are talking about! not only does javaier rip off customers but he also rips off other shops! mine for instance. we bought a "built" engine from him for a boosted application and had nothing but problems with it. when we could finally get a hold of javaier we did everything he asked us to do to fix the problem, but nothing fixed the problem. when we finally got a hold of him again he asked us to send the engine back which we did now we cannot get ahold off him either through e-mail on the phone or fax. so know not only does he have our money he also has the engine. so explain that? keep in mind that all money spent to try and repair the problem while the engine was in the car we footed the bill and then to ship the engine back we footed the bill with no compensation from javiaer. that is why we have a law suit pending against him. and it sure is strange that in alot of the new edelbrock ads there is no mention of jg anymore, why is that?

 

Obviously i do have a clue since i deal with him almost everyday, we do run into a complication here and there but it allways gets resolved. What is the name of your shop and your name you work at & number?

 

do you know why the motors work for those 9 sec racer, because when he sends a block to them, he makes sure its good. but with every common day peoples blocks, its not given the special consideration as a famous racer. not low quality control, no quality control.

 

my name is Joey and my shops name is Stage 6 Motorsports and lets see i think the guy from camp 1320 told me the same thing you just said and i never heard back from him either but hell lets give it another try! my work number is (904) 777- 3250 and if you would like to discuss this further i am at the shop now and online so why don't you pick up the phone and give us a call? he is the only shop we have had a problem with and we now us ge for all our sleeving and building needs. yes sometimes it takes them longer to get you your parts then they say but at least if you send them a block back for warranty you get it back! javaier has had our money since 5/28/03 and he got the block back in july of 03 so lets see he has the money and the product but will not call us or even pick up the phone when we call or e-mail or even fax him to get an answer! sounds like a good business to me????

 

I don't deal or know anyone that deals with JG, but I do work in a shop and I know what ALLvetec is talking about, I see it every day. And yes, customer service should be better but it is hard to find good help, my shop got a bad name because of a few employees that were screwing people over, and it reflects on the whole shop, and the closer the engine is to the edge, the more potential there is for problems, but I won't say either way about him, just don't get mad at the owner if he isn't there cause he is sick and you are dealing with his employees

 

so what you are saying is that the owner has no responsibility for the actions of his employees? the people he hired the people he watches over? wow thats a load of my mind! guess i can quite worring weither or not we turn out a good product or if customers are being taken care of and that there will be no comebacks for problems! what a load off of my mind!

 

wow just like in car sales. people that pay full pop are the best customers and are the happiest it's those people who get there cars just over invoice that are the most unhappiest people on Earth. I got a question for people who have had problems with motors how many motor they have ever built on there own? Then realize that these are race motors and are at the edge. when has a funny car ever been reliable and go without a tear down after a run? these motors that are built by Javier and any top engine builder for that matter will tell you there race motors and do expect the unexpected. You play you got to pay somewhere.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allmtrwhore2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I got a question for people who have had problems with motors how many motor they have ever built on there own? Then realize that these are race motors and are at the edge. when has a funny car ever been reliable and go without a tear down after a run? these motors that are built by Javier and any top engine builder for that matter will tell you there race motors and do expect the unexpected. You play you got to pay somewhere. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I built probably 20 hot-rod engines of all makes over a span longer than you been alive. I dont care what any of you jerkoffs say there was no excuse for the D16Z I got from him.I wish it was as reliable as a Top Fuel engine,the piece of **** burned oil and antifreeze from the moment it started and idled.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALLvtec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Moral of the story i believe in karma and in this industry it is really true you get what you pay for </TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes,I believe in Karma too and maybe Javier health issues were cause by what we payed for

 

just garbage dude cost me a motor fro mhis wack *** springs and retainers


will never buy another jg product in my lifetime , beacause of their lies.

javier geek shoudltn of told me the prings will hold up my jun cams , **** dropped avalve at 7300 rpms in a prelude motor


andf jg assembled the head and put the springs and retainers in , with stock blcok usdm so there shoudl be no valve clearance problems , i blame javier geek for my mishapps, dude never picks up his phone , i want my money back for thsoe shitttyyy **** springs and retainers, what do u have to say about that javvier geek are u gonan refund my money for your lowsy service and products, prolly not because javier geek doenst care about his customers other wise he would return my calls and not hide like a little kid, wish i neever went to them in the first place that was my mistake when otheres where telling me that jg is shitty.

 

I invite anyone with problems to try a Benson sleeved block. Benson is a one man shop. He does everything himself. Blocks spend no longer than 10 days maximum in the shop. Sleeves never drop, align bore is never needed, deck is never crooked, no gap between the sleeves and tolerance of .0001 is always held. I am available 24-7 if there ever is a question.
Earl

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I invite anyone with problems to try a Benson sleeved block. Benson is a one man shop. He does everything himself. Blocks spend no longer than 10 days maximum in the shop. Sleeves never drop, align bore is never needed, deck is never crooked, no gap between the sleeves and tolerance of .0001 is always held. I am available 24-7 if there ever is a question.
Earl</TD></TR></TABLE>


Earl, you da man. Benson sounds like a high quality operation.

 

anything is better than jg


JG= javier geek

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TYPERman2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything is better than jg


JG= javier geek </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why dont you just drive down and talk to him?

 

so i cna jsut waste some more time, i call and ive went there twice allready dude is never there and his emplyess said i need to talk to him

i jsut want my money back for shitty springs and retainers that he promised me would work


i will never get my money back for my longblock cause of his mistake, he should of told me the truth not lied cause he jsut wanted my cash he dont care about performance he cares about cash. if i see him in person im gonna talk to him if i ever find him and tell him how much he cost me then oprolly nock his *** out cold because thats what he deserves is to get nocked the **** out

 

JG= just gay

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TYPERman2001 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">anything is better than jg


JG= javier geek </TD></TR></TABLE>

not until they build a all motor car to go faster then Leslie Durst

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I built probably 20 hot-rod engines of all makes over a span longer than you been alive. I dont care what any of you jerkoffs say there was no excuse for the D16Z I got from him.I wish it was as reliable as a Top Fuel engine,the piece of **** burned oil and antifreeze from the moment it started and idled.

Yes,I believe in Karma too and maybe Javier health issues were cause by what we payed for
</TD></TR></TABLE>

could be **** happens

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I invite anyone with problems to try a Benson sleeved block. Benson is a one man shop. He does everything himself. Blocks spend no longer than 10 days maximum in the shop. Sleeves never drop, align bore is never needed, deck is never crooked, no gap between the sleeves and tolerance of .0001 is always held. I am available 24-7 if there ever is a question.
Earl</TD></TR></TABLE>

only downside, if dan benson gets sick or has something come up with his family, who is going to take care of the customers?

having one man is good in some ways, and bad in others.
his business is 100% limited by how much time dan has. if he wants to do more blocks, he cant cause he is probably already at 90-95% mfg capacity.

besides that, its good to see a place with CONSISTENT results from their work. nothing like having some hard core guy that is a total **** perfectionist working out of a garage and making sure its done right each time.

its kinda like 500 years ago when the violin and other music instrument craftsman would work 1-3 years on just one instrument.

cool ****.

 

Dan=no wife, grown kids, loves to machine, brand new CnC coming in a couple of weeks, engine dyno already purchased, dyno room being built, no one but Dan touches your block, 25 years machining experience...makes me tired just to type all that he is actually doing.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by earl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dan=no wife, grown kids, loves to machine, brand new CnC coming in a couple of weeks, engine dyno already purchased, dyno room being built, no one but Dan touches your block, 25 years machining experience...makes me tired just to type all that he is actually doing. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like someone is going to grow old and die lonely

i use to go to Benson back in the day when i was working at a shop in Huntington beach we had a gsr stroker we where working on lol he made the crank so big it wouldn't turn rods would hit the walls, everyone has problems here and there no one is perfect Benson is a one man shop and with what your trying to post your going to make him bit more then he can chew

 

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i use to go to Benson back in the day when i was working at a shop in Huntington beach we had a gsr stroker we where working on lol he made the crank so big it wouldn't turn rods would hit the walls</TD></TR></TABLE>


You trying to say Benson forged a stroker crank for you guys?

 

they didnt build leslies dursts motor.. I know who did. and it wasnt who you think..

 

You remember me, I'm the one that had to come to your shop to get my ****!!! And I sure as hell know what you look like, and we know you do not fulfill your ends of deals!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, You flat rip poeple off; like me!!!!!!!!!!!!!