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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 04:05 PM
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did it back in the day, now i got 5.9s with a welded diff... super super dangerous

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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 04:51 PM
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Broke ***! Buy a damn LSD differential. $1k isn't worth questioning your life or your car. If you could afford to build a car to make 600WHP you can afford to buy a LSD.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by boostek9
i say keep it open until you can afford the LSD

as far as stock axles: keep in mind that they are made of a softer metal than the aftermarket. most of us are preloading our cars and not snapping axles in burnout or launch. with the softer metal, the axle will start to twist and then break on the big end. we have pulled several axles out after passes to see them starting to twist, only time will allow them to snap on the big end, causing potential disaster. just keep an eye on them.
aftermarket axles are much stronger so they wont twist easily, and if they are going to break usually it will be a quick clean break during a burnout or launch.
5.9 will twist more than a stock axle and not break
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 07:34 PM
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I broke an open diff on the street. The tires were spinning during the 2-3 shift on 225 BFG's when it let go. Stock B16 trans in my EM1 making about 400hp. This was after about 4 years of abuse at that power level. Ended up splitting the case.

Buy the LSD and save the time, money and possibly your car/life if things go bad.
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 08:42 PM
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Typical Honda-Tech responses. Not everyone has thousands of dollars to dump into their cars. But god forbid. If you dont "you should find another hobby", or "get another job". I guess some of us should just quit, and park our ****. Thatll help the sport grow...
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Old Feb 17, 2012 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by theidealone
Typical Honda-Tech responses. Not everyone has thousands of dollars to dump into their cars. But god forbid. If you dont "you should find another hobby", or "get another job". I guess some of us should just quit, and park our ****. Thatll help the sport grow...
So if this guy lined up with you and his axle broke at 100+ mph, totals your car and causes your injuries would you tell him " It's cool I know you were just trying to help the sport grow by cheaping out on a differential"?
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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He didnt say that but accidents happen and who hasnt heard of an expensive diff breaking... All kinds of ill type **** COULD happen, thays drag racing buddy. This is why we are required to have the proper safty equipment... Generally because of parts failure. You have a good point but anything is possible and you risk your life every time you get in your car and if your not willing to do that then you sir should hang it up.... This is a dumb argument anyway welded diffs have been being used forever.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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I ran a welded diff for a while. Silly me I never stopped to take a few minutes to inspect my axles. I drove my car to the last IFO event in my hometown last year, ran it, drove home, almost made it home and this hapened.












Axle popped and took me straight into a power line...
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by PFI_NAYR_ONE
He didnt say that but accidents happen and who hasnt heard of an expensive diff breaking... All kinds of ill type **** COULD happen, thays drag racing buddy. This is why we are required to have the proper safty equipment... Generally because of parts failure. You have a good point but anything is possible and you risk your life every time you get in your car and if your not willing to do that then you sir should hang it up.... This is a dumb argument anyway welded diffs have been being used forever.
well if thats the case,per NHRA rules to keep you safe, you are not allowed to run as welded differential on a nhra track period
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:21 AM
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Originally Posted by PFI_NAYR_ONE
He didnt say that but accidents happen and who hasnt heard of an expensive diff breaking... All kinds of ill type **** COULD happen, thays drag racing buddy. This is why we are required to have the proper safty equipment... Generally because of parts failure. You have a good point but anything is possible and you risk your life every time you get in your car and if your not willing to do that then you sir should hang it up.... This is a dumb argument anyway welded diffs have been being used forever.
You obviously missed my point. If you have an aftermarket diff and it breaks chances of you hitting the wall or the other person are smaller (almost none) than if you had a spool or a welded differential...I understand the whole "hey it's racing and **** happens" concept or else I wouldn't be doing it. As for the whole "hang it up" comment... Im not the one needing to weld my diff as I can replace a $800 part if it breaks.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by turbo-2nr
well if thats the case,per NHRA rules to keep you safe, you are not allowed to run as welded differential on a nhra track period
so whats the difference between a welded diff and a spool?
are you not allowed to run a spool then either? cause essentially they do the same exact thing
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 12:22 PM
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im going to run it open,thanks for the input everyone.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 05:02 PM
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Originally Posted by boostontheD
so whats the difference between a welded diff and a spool?
are you not allowed to run a spool then either? cause essentially they do the same exact thing
Exactly i have an sfi approved spool on my shelf.... I didnt saying driving a locked diff on the street was a good idea.. this is dumb if your not quick enough to clutch in you could wreck with an lsd too.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:11 PM
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Holy ****, were arguing with retards.

I mean, I understand some people are hard headed, and youll never change their opinion. But wow...

Im not saying a welded diff is "the best thing around, **** an LSD." But for those of us who have other priorities in our build, or lives, it gets the job done. But I guess if the new point is NHRA legal or not, Ill buy a cheap *** Richmond spool, and do the same ****ing thing. Then what do you cry about, or who do you cry to? You dont like that I run a spool? Dont line up against me. Forfeit your race.

As for the safety issue... Anything could happen. Your slick could blow out at 150, and put me in the wall. Thats why I have the required safety equipment, that allows me to be doing 150 right along side of you. Otherwise, Im probably in a slower car that would have been left behind at the 330 mark.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by theidealone
Holy ****, were arguing with retards.

I mean, I understand some people are hard headed, and youll never change their opinion. But wow...

Im not saying a welded diff is "the best thing around, **** an LSD." But for those of us who have other priorities in our build, or lives, it gets the job done. But I guess if the new point is NHRA legal or not, Ill buy a cheap *** Richmond spool, and do the same ****ing thing. Then what do you cry about, or who do you cry to? You dont like that I run a spool? Dont line up against me. Forfeit your race.

As for the safety issue... Anything could happen. Your slick could blow out at 150, and put me in the wall. Thats why I have the required safety equipment, that allows me to be doing 150 right along side of you. Otherwise, Im probably in a slower car that would have been left behind at the 330 mark.
i completely agree! i will be running a richmond spool this year. lsd's break just not at easy at a open diff. axles break too. slicks pop front lower control arms can break so many things can happen that can take you straight to the wall. if you have all the proper safety gear you should be just fine. but using that safety gear is the last thing anyone wants to do of course.
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:22 PM
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Originally Posted by theidealone
Holy ****, were arguing with retards.

I mean, I understand some people are hard headed, and youll never change their opinion. But wow...

Im not saying a welded diff is "the best thing around, **** an LSD." But for those of us who have other priorities in our build, or lives, it gets the job done. But I guess if the new point is NHRA legal or not, Ill buy a cheap *** Richmond spool, and do the same ****ing thing. Then what do you cry about, or who do you cry to? You dont like that I run a spool? Dont line up against me. Forfeit your race.

As for the safety issue... Anything could happen. Your slick could blow out at 150, and put me in the wall. Thats why I have the required safety equipment, that allows me to be doing 150 right along side of you. Otherwise, Im probably in a slower car that would have been left behind at the 330 mark.
Amen.... Pass me or crash me lol i have ran a welded diff for 8 years and back.in the day the car never went slower than 12.0 even now i wouldnt have a problem with it if i had to use it but im down with tje spool theae dudea can cry all they want... Linkin locker for life
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Old Feb 18, 2012 | 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by theidealone
Holy ****, were arguing with retards.

I mean, I understand some people are hard headed, and youll never change their opinion. But wow...

Im not saying a welded diff is "the best thing around, **** an LSD." But for those of us who have other priorities in our build, or lives, it gets the job done. But I guess if the new point is NHRA legal or not, Ill buy a cheap *** Richmond spool, and do the same ****ing thing. Then what do you cry about, or who do you cry to? You dont like that I run a spool? Dont line up against me. Forfeit your race.

As for the safety issue... Anything could happen. Your slick could blow out at 150, and put me in the wall. Thats why I have the required safety equipment, that allows me to be doing 150 right along side of you. Otherwise, Im probably in a slower car that would have been left behind at the 330 mark.
If you go back and read the entire thread you can form an idea on who the retards really are....must be an altitude thing
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FlewByU352
Broke ***! Buy a damn LSD differential. $1k isn't worth questioning your life or your car. If you could afford to build a car to make 600WHP you can afford to buy a LSD.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 1FASTHF
If you go back and read the entire thread you can form an idea on who the retards really are....must be an altitude thing
Oooo, burn! Good one bro. Good one.

[EDIT] Such a well formulated response. You put a lot of thought into that one. Your rebuttal has rendered me speechless. You win...
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 03:57 PM
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OBX diffs are 400 new.

Used Quaifes are prolly just as much.

If you guys can afford to build your cars, buy slicks, and make it to the track, than why cant you afford LSD's?
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by 93supercoupe
If you guys can afford to build your cars, buy slicks, and make it to the track, than why cant you afford LSD's?
They have other priorities and live their life one quarter mile at a time.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 05:14 PM
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lol, appearently.

The car posted above should be a good enough reason.

I dunno about you guys, but my chassis is worth more than a diff, and im sure the guy u hit in the next lane will be thinking the same thing.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 07:44 PM
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who knows what the outlaw guys run for diffs?
i wanna bet that they all run spools and are running 175+mph with a "locked" diff. same as a welded diff.
i would guess that most lsd's would break under a high amount of power and traction on a outlaw car.
anyone have info on there diff setups?
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:08 PM
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For some reason, I was under the impression they were running LSDs.
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Old Feb 19, 2012 | 08:29 PM
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Originally Posted by theidealone
Oooo, burn! Good one bro. Good one.

[EDIT] Such a well formulated response. You put a lot of thought into that one. Your rebuttal has rendered me speechless. You win...
LOL.. Sorry didn't mean to be an ***. Look welded diff's work but what everyone is trying to say that it's not the smartest thing to do. Yeah you might get a blow out,control arm can break,etc. but when the blow out was caused by you putting on a damaged tire it changes everything.
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