Voltage drop issue
when you have a race car its all about saving weight. danny i agree with you a good battery is a great choice but ask any of the major teams guy like for say rado, you can start the car with a jumper pack and run the car on a damn dewalt battery if the alternator is up to spec! a bigger battery with more capacity is always good but you will get some sort of voltage drop! you dont want that! gary kubo told me you want the alternator to be able to provide the amperage for all of the electronics in the car other wise you are running off the battery at higher rpms. Ive been in the stereo field before i got in to this **** i know what im talking about! amps are the key! voltage is just a way to cheat the process.
It's pretty simple guys. The battery is only going to supply about 12v. If you want 13.5-14v, the alternator HAS to be able to keep up with the current requirements. If the alternator can't keep up, you're going to fall back to battery voltage.
I'm on both sides, I hate small batteries because you usually get f*cked at some point with a car that won't start. A good alternator is important if you want to maintain over 12v through the run.
That new XS Power regulated lithium battery setup that Titan has on the Supra is pretty sick. Really freaking expensive, but sick. 6lbs and no alternator and can maintain a regulated power supply up to 18v i think it is.
I'm on both sides, I hate small batteries because you usually get f*cked at some point with a car that won't start. A good alternator is important if you want to maintain over 12v through the run.
That new XS Power regulated lithium battery setup that Titan has on the Supra is pretty sick. Really freaking expensive, but sick. 6lbs and no alternator and can maintain a regulated power supply up to 18v i think it is.
I agree, but the only reason the voltage would drop is if the the battery was so small that the system had to run on the alternator alone and the current being drawn was greater than the alternator and battery combo could produce. Then as more current was drawn, the voltage would start dropping. If the battery has enough energy stored, the alternator doesn't have to do all of the work. My whole point is that a stock honda alternator and battery supply plenty of current when used together and we don't need to get people to spend extra money on expensive alternators and batteries when the only advantage would be weight savings when we usually have to add weight anyway. If i were going to spend money on this it would be a 16 or 18 volt battery like you are talkign about to eliminate the alternator. The only reason I haven't done that already is that you always have to run the charger between rounds and if you get stuck in the lanes for a long time, you really shouldn't run the car to warm it up. To do it correctly, you would need a whole team with a support vehicle, and that is not in the budget.LOL
Yeah, I like a big battery, but I had voltage issues on my car with a stock alternator with a decent size Kinetic battery. I added up all the current draw on my car and all the high power electronics consume quite a bit more than a normal setup. Big fan, big fuel pump, big water pump, big CDI box, ecu, etc. I'm very close to 100amps at full steam.
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Lots of great info guys thank u all for your support , the only reason i am running the oddesey batt is for space , due to T1 catch can and my intercooler set up is not back door , so im really out of space my next thing would have to be to either make a back door set up or place batt in the trunk , which i really dont want to do ,but back to the subject im going to give it a shot with a normal size batt and to see what happens.
My 12V Odyssey with no alt would read 13.5V at idle and in lower rpm. At high RPM it would drop to 10.8 volts. Swap alternators and see if it helps. That sounds like a good place to start at least.
If i were going to spend money on this it would be a 16 or 18 volt battery like you are talkign about to eliminate the alternator. The only reason I haven't done that already is that you always have to run the charger between rounds and if you get stuck in the lanes for a long time, you really shouldn't run the car to warm it up. To do it correctly, you would need a whole team with a support vehicle, and that is not in the budget.LOL
did you see the price on that battery! 2100+ $$$$$$$$$$$$$ BALLER!
like tony said add up your draw and see if your amperage exceeds your alternator! you want your electronics to run of the alternator if possable! i understand what your saying danny as well i owned my own stereo shop for 8 years and competed in all forms of sounds off myself, different strokes for different folks! my advice is an alternator upgrade! just my 2 cents! lithium power for the win if you can afford it!
like tony said add up your draw and see if your amperage exceeds your alternator! you want your electronics to run of the alternator if possable! i understand what your saying danny as well i owned my own stereo shop for 8 years and competed in all forms of sounds off myself, different strokes for different folks! my advice is an alternator upgrade! just my 2 cents! lithium power for the win if you can afford it!
sport front cant run 16volts! lol rules rules rules,
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recently purchased the 200 amp alternater from http://www.nationsautoelectric.com/highoutput.html
for a stereo car! and they have 140 amp available i didnt get a cost!
for a stereo car! and they have 140 amp available i didnt get a cost!
i agree!
i purchased a 200 amp alternator from them for a car i was doing some work on and it works flawless! the owner actually gave me the car after i was done with it , so yeah going strong and no problems! and to my friend tara who gave me the car! i love ya girl and to my friend grimace you will be missed! rip!
i purchased a 200 amp alternator from them for a car i was doing some work on and it works flawless! the owner actually gave me the car after i was done with it , so yeah going strong and no problems! and to my friend tara who gave me the car! i love ya girl and to my friend grimace you will be missed! rip!
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