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vectorsolid 09-06-2011 12:13 AM

Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
 
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Best passes EVER, prior to this weekend was a 10.02@146, Never got a 9. Lot's of struggling and broken stuff as the car evolved over the last 3+ years. This weekend, everything came together and I ran 5 passes all of them 8.7-8.8. Got to skip the 9's completely. WHOHOO!!!!

Truly, Thanks to everybody at the Speedfactory, nobody can do these kinds of things without good support and I'm grateful to the whole crew. :)

Here's the glory slip. :) and all 5 passes from Sunday. Thanks to everybody that's been so kind and offered up words of encouragement and support over the years. ;) I'll post up some pics and vids as I find and get them knocked out.

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Sundays passes are marked 9/4/2011

CO_RaceFab 09-06-2011 01:08 AM

Re: Skipped the 9's, ran 8.77 for a NEW PB. YEA!!!!!
 
I think that's the lowest mph for an 8sec pass I have seen kick ass bob

crucian 09-06-2011 01:14 AM

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Nice!

Desir Performance 09-06-2011 01:56 AM

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Nice, what was the setup for that pass?

zakura R 09-06-2011 02:12 AM

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Nice number man and crazy 60s . what ecu ur runing ?? If u don't might me ask ?

tepid1 09-06-2011 02:47 AM

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Holy crap Bob!

Great work.

XXXRacing 09-06-2011 02:47 AM

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congrats I think you are the first fwd racer that never ran a 9 before an 8!

oneqkfodo 09-06-2011 03:23 AM

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Congrats

dyno76 09-06-2011 03:47 AM

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Congrats! Very nice job Bob, was cool to be able to witness this happen.

LS AzZkIkr 09-06-2011 03:52 AM

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Wow that looks like a RWD time slip with the mph! I bet that is one hell of a ride!

Enzo-Racing 09-06-2011 03:59 AM

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Originally Posted by XXXRacing (Post 45966943)
congrats I think you are the first fwd racer that never ran a 9 before an 8!

Yeah that's pretty cool.. Congrats..

xsi-t 09-06-2011 04:29 AM

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Awesome but what changes were made to make the big jump???

rota92 09-06-2011 04:30 AM

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Awesome Bob! Good for you! Must have been the wing of course!

What was so different that made the car an animal?

tuhboek 09-06-2011 04:55 AM

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Congrats! that is awesome. Whats the set-up like?

wolve 09-06-2011 05:02 AM

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crazy, 8 is the new 9's and 9 is the new 10's.

now have the top dogs reach for the unreachable, 7's on a 'street' fwd honda :P

4cylfiend 09-06-2011 05:15 AM

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Congrats!!

FunctionovaForm 09-06-2011 05:16 AM

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congrats...Any vids of the passes?

2fastGSR 09-06-2011 05:20 AM

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Congrats!

MARC P 09-06-2011 05:27 AM

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Sick short track times!

Congrats

Marc P

4cylfiend 09-06-2011 05:31 AM

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yes in for vids!!

JJsMotorsports 09-06-2011 05:33 AM

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Very Nice time slip times and MPH!
Congrats! Not an easy Feat!

94turbosi 09-06-2011 05:40 AM

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Congrats!!!! That's a nice accomplishment.

ProjectLSVTEG 09-06-2011 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by dyno76 (Post 45967009)
Congrats! Very nice job Bob, was cool to be able to witness this happen.

This. I think our whole crew was as excited for you as the Speedfactory guys!

Damn impressive! Keep it up (and together!).

rickbeastwood 09-06-2011 06:07 AM

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Nice!!!

Dynamic Performance Racing 09-06-2011 06:07 AM

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wow nice man congrats !!!!!

Mark Morris 09-06-2011 06:11 AM

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Congrats-- love that 330'! Keep-up the enthusiasm and love for the sport.

CHEETAH 09-06-2011 06:35 AM

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thats badass, congrats !!!

snobordboy 09-06-2011 06:47 AM

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Congrats! That must have been quite the grin all day long!

Madmood 09-06-2011 06:51 AM

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Bob , That was awesome!!! I didnt get to see the run. But when I heard the burnout, I knew it was your car. Then I hear the announcer say "8.77" I was stunned. Awesome job this weekend. It was the wing for sure.

Blown90hatcH 09-06-2011 07:44 AM

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Bob,

Thanks for posting your spreadsheets. Congrats again man!

Chef Andre 09-06-2011 08:06 AM

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Congrats man!!! Looking forward to vids. What's the setup?

BoostR41 09-06-2011 09:32 AM

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Was this on the DOT tires you ran before? Regardless congrats on the passes.

ssc_thomas 09-06-2011 09:44 AM

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This is awesome! Very big congrats! huge mile stone in a fwd car! What a feeling it must have been to look down probably expecting that 9 second slip finally! and see an 8 with a period in front of it! and then to back it up again and again! Great job man and way to stick with it!

Bring it out to the shootout! running those numbers and that consistent you could run the table on the whole field! Be a great trip to take in your new trailer! :)

Poootie 09-06-2011 09:47 AM

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damn, not even a 8.90!

Congrats..Thats super sick!

project93hatch 09-06-2011 09:58 AM

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good job man! seen all your passes!!:thumbup:

SpeedFactoryRacing 09-06-2011 10:29 AM

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http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphot...9_519473_n.jpg

Bob "Bringing the Pain" Stormer did an awesome job driving the car this weekend. I am glad that we could help and be apart of the project. Now its time to put a big-boy engine in the car and see what happens ;)

Good things to come!

dustin528 09-06-2011 11:06 AM

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dang man! that's sick! those are some pretty sick short track times!!! Congrats!

bauergold 09-06-2011 12:23 PM

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Awesome!

TDautowerkes 09-06-2011 12:42 PM

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how are you controlling traction/boost? the 60 and 330 are just insane!

vectorsolid 09-06-2011 01:11 PM

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Truly, if I could just say one thing about the whole setup, if you're working with a local shop, trust their judgement and listen to their advice. If you walk into Tonys shop, or PFI, or KS, or SF, don't tell them what you read about on a forum. Ask for their advice, and buy the shite they recommend, preferably from them, and work with them on the tune. that's what they do, they're good at it! I was spending a HUGE amount of time second guessing everything and learning compressor maps and stuff that REALLY is not all that important to the average guy. Get to a shop, ask for advice, TAKE THE GOOD ADVICE you get, and work with the shop. There are great shops all over the country.

When SF built this long block in 2008, rather than tell them what to do, I just asked, "what would you do"? and told them my goals, and that the main thing I wanted was dependability, even if it sacrificed power. And that's how it all started. Was supposed to be a non-sleeved 300whp b16, and then it snowballed over the years. :P Heck, still has headlights, tailights, blinkers, tilt wheel, factory cluster. ...lol...

I try to listen to good advice when I get it. And then I twist it all up with my old school V8 ideas, (and my other "great" ideas) and we get a path to take. :)


Originally Posted by PFI_NAYR_ONE (Post 45966872)
I think that's the lowest mph for an 8sec pass I have seen kick ass bob

Without being long winded, the car doesn't have the horsepower to push through the air on the big end that guys like Tony, or Kevin, Reid etc have. That and the motor can't flow any more air. It's maxed out and nosing over pretty bad on the big end. Nosing over so bad at around 900 feet that you can feel the pressure on your chest from the seat belts as the car loses G-force before crossing the line. Needs a head, cams, valves... etc. Was never supposed to be what it has become. But I suppose that's how it goes with everybodys car, if you're honest about it. This is also why the MPH is SO consistent. It's largely done accelerating at about 1000 feet and just trying to maintain 167 mph because it's all the horsepower it's got to give. You can probably here me in the car, "C'mon little buddy, you can do it!!!" Unless we make major head related changes, I don't think it will ever have enough power to go 170. I've got enough power to go 168, and that TRULY appears to be it. Unless, and I do mean UNLESS, We can trick the car a bit. Like short shift everything a bit so that it's not nosing between 9-10k in 1 through 3rd. this would allow it to pull longer in 4th below 9k and maybe sling shot it a bit. OR 1/2- 1 pound more in the tires to cheat the gear ratio so it goes out at at 9k not 10k. Same with the final drive. All bandaid ideas and work arounds to the flow problem with the head and cams.


Originally Posted by zakura R (Post 45966920)
Nice number man and crazy 60s . what ecu ur runing ?? If u don't might me ask ?

s300


Originally Posted by LS AzZkIkr (Post 45967018)
Wow that looks like a RWD time slip with the mph! I bet that is one hell of a ride!

Kevin had a lot of good advice about looking for the groove. Turns out, yea, you should do that. :) I had a pass in Malta where I got out of the groove and went wall to centerline. That sucked a lot and was not fun. I got out of the car and said, "if this is how it's going to be every time, we need to tune it back". What it was, was me being sloppy and not noticing the groove and not caring if I was in it or not (to much time bracket racing 12 and 13 second cars). It's important. Car goes VERY straight in the groove. The pass I threw the chute on (first time for me :) ) was stable enough I wasn't worried about having my right hand off the wheel. UNTIL I threw it then, DAMN... I couldn't get my hand back to the wheel quick enough. that chute stuff is no joke at 170. I'm glad I got the experience, and glad it's on the car.




Originally Posted by xsi-t (Post 45967082)
Awesome but what changes were made to make the big jump???

old setup was maxed out on fuel at around 613whp. Then we did everything we could to max out the fuel system and put Kevins old "hand me down" 72mm turbo on it. ;) That upgrade was all about getting fuel. Without the particulars, here's a before and after. From 2008 and today. If you look, one of the compromises to the setup I made is having the turbo inlet face the frame rail and not go out the nose with a V-stack like everybody else does. That's based on our track, lot's of gravel on the return road and insects on the track. Don't want to ingest thrown gravel rattle off a dude in front of me in the burnout box. We get hit with little pieces of gravel all the time. Every setup has it's quirks. :)

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Originally Posted by rota92 (Post 45967084)
Awesome Bob! Good for you! Must have been the wing of course!

What was so different that made the car an animal?

I think the wing helped a lot (at least I felt better that it was on there). I don't care if I lose mph, just that the car is stable. I have a few degrees of downforce on it and am channeling the air from the roof (sideplates) in a manner that I think will keep the car straight.

Biggest things... to me, the Albins box and the 26's. Added a lot of confidence.


Originally Posted by BoostR41 (Post 45968397)
Was this on the DOT tires you ran before? Regardless congrats on the passes.

M&H 26's.


Originally Posted by ssc_thomas (Post 45968453)
This is awesome! Very big congrats! huge mile stone in a fwd car! What a feeling it must have been to look down probably expecting that 9 second slip finally! and see an 8 with a period in front of it! and then to back it up again and again! Great job man and way to stick with it!

Thanks man, that's almost exactly what happened. I was thinking, please be a 9 anything. then DAMN!!! :P


Originally Posted by TDautowerkes (Post 45969522)
how are you controlling traction/boost? the 60 and 330 are just insane!

Fresh 26's. And watching tire pressure I think is most of it for me. s300 and boost by gear, nothing overly fancy. I'm super cautious with the tune. I like to work into a tune, and James likes to throw all in and tone back. It's a good combination of bravery and cowardace. I'm a sissy with the tune, and we go from there. :)


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