I dont know if this is old new to most of you but the NHRA stripped Durst of her All Motor record. They said it was reset becasue of the rule changes. So does this mean that everytime they change the rules in the class they are going to clear the record books ? Here is what they have posted up on thier website.

Honda Tuning All Motor
Ken Scheepers 10.38 '85 Mazda RX7 Fontana (March '04)
Bisi Ezerioha 130.179 '88 Honda CRX Fontana (March '04)

Its like NHRA hates it when anyting other than a domestic has a record. They seen Rado's car coming to crush there beloved domestics Pro FWD so they banned the car before it got a chance. NHRA

 

they will only change the records when there is a change in the weight rules

 

For some reason I see this happening a lot when certain makes do not have the records. You've got to love millions of dollars and the good ole boy system.

 

slow down, they even do that in the Powerade series. I don't think it would matter who was holding the records. Maybe they should put * by the old records explaining the deal. It is the same thing all other sports do.

 

I got that same vibe. Not to diss NHRA or anything. It seems like since the extreme rush program has started, they see what our sport is all about and they don't like what they see. When a Pro RWD top qualifier is faster than a NHRA Pro Stock car. I don't know though, didn't they put like a turbo size restriction on Pro RWD too or something? I know what you are saying about Rado's new car, they didn't even give it any thought about banning it, it seems. Sort of like the NHRA V8 import class two years ago with them stopping that. Just some thoughts I have been having.

 

Look guys, the NHRA is not going to do anything to kill either series. They felt they needed to slow these cars down, so they did rule changes. All sanctioning bodies do it, we even had some rule changes this off season. Trust me when I tell You, they are as interested in building this sport as we are or You guys are.

 

What have been some of the rule changes for the NDRA? Just curious. I understand what you are saying about slowing the cars down.

 

http://ndra.nopi.com/ndra_2k4/ndra_rulebook.cfm

Just take a look, there are quite a few.

 

Rule changes are there to try and balance things out, keep races close. Spectators don't want to constantly see 10 second cars getting beat by 8 second cars. They want side by side races!

As far as the old records, I think they should still be able to be viewed somewhere. The people that hold those worked very hard to achieve those goals and the accomplishments should not be forgotton!

New rules, New Records and also more chances and extra points for resetting those records. Scheepers and Bisi both had issues through the event but they should get some extra points for the records set that day. That might play big into the points race at the end. Something to watch!

Thing that gets me is why have the poll on the NHRA site about what record will be the hardest to beat in what class when they just reset most of them? I always wanted to vote they would all fall but there was no button for that.

This will be a great year in all classes and sanctions, can't wait to get started!

Anthony Dowd

 

boo on the record reset boo to nhra

 

i had a bad incident with one of the people at the event... he wouldnt let me take the shots that i wanted to and kept on pushing me around. i liked the event, but whoever that guy was messed up my day, even after dropping my lense, he just walked by and grinned..


Modified by 2FastxEg at 10:13 PM 3/25/2004

 

Thats why theres alot of people that I knoe that wont run NHRA. They are trying to slow down us import guys Beacause we are catching up with them so quickly I think there just butt hurt cause these Imports are gonna shatter there records that they have been working on since the NHRA started... I dont care what they say there a bunch of Rednecks and you knoe Rednecks hate imports they always make fun of us. NHRA=Rednecks=Hate on us import guys. Nhra

 

First of all, We all know Leslie is the first to break the 9 sec barrier and she will always be remembered. No doubt in my mind. Alot of people dont run NHRA becasue they cant hang. Cookie Graphics has one of the slowest Hot ROD cars barely makes the fields in NHRA,yet comes to most and every NHRA event in the west coast. The Sport compact field is a mess right now. How many close races do you see, the times are so far off its ridiculous. The only one that is butt hurt is you. I guess you can call me a REDNECK becasue after any and everyrace i go to , my neck gets <FONT COLOR="red">RED</FONT> weither is hot or cold rain or shine lotion or sunblock i get burned. Maybe you should come to a Powerade race and call everyone red necks. Its sad to see people like you hate when you dont know half the story. I hate imports

As for the pictures form photographers its not NHRA who says dont let anyone but National Dragster takes pics cus URBAN RACER AND MODIFIED MAG has some really nice pics. Maybe also you should talk to the guys at NHRA about this before you slash them. Im sure they would be glad to apolizige and take care of it. We all love pictures. by the way what magizine do you work for??

 

I took pix's till my damn battery's died and i got great position...Maybe it was just who u were next to...*shrugs*

 

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Honda Tuning All Motor
Ken Scheepers 10.38 '85 Mazda RX7 Fontana (March '04)
Bisi Ezerioha 130.179 '88 Honda CRX Fontana (March '04)

Its like NHRA hates it when anyting other than a domestic has a record. They seen Rado's car coming to crush there beloved domestics Pro FWD so they banned the car before it got a chance. NHRA </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ummmm i beieve a crx and a rx7 are considered imports, unless you live in japan or outside the US...

 

Ummmm i beieve a crx and a rx7 are considered imports, unless you live in japan or outside the US...

you caught that too huh...lol @ P I M P. if im not mistaken, Ken did recieve points credit for his record breaking performance. correct me if im wrong, but the E.T. records get points, but not the M.P.H. and as the other gentlemen mentioned, the records are reset as a result of *weight changes* in any given class. just my two cents.

 

Correct, an ET record is worth 20 points. MPH records do not receive points because mph is not considered the traditional benchmark in a drag race; ET wins races and championships, not MPH.

sold9secteg is also correct, anytime a record holding car is no longer legal under current rules, the record is put back to minimum, even on NHRA domestic side. Therory being that it's not fair to people who have to deal with the new rules, that they have to break a record set under a different set of rules. I've got a call into my sources to see if the note can be added to the record page, as you suggested. I'll also forward Anthony's suggestion about keeping the old records available for viewing.

Alex, not sure what the problem was, other people have indicated they got great pix. But I do know that National Dragster is the house magazine for NHRA, and it was an NHRA event. I don't think anyone would be surprised if ProMedia photogs got preferential treatment at NMRA or PRO events. Nonetheless, such flagrant bashing on a forum will probably not go far in cementing a good relationship between OverRev magazine and the NHRA media department. (I've heard that some of the NHRA guys actually watch these boards.) I'd suggest a phone call and a calm discussion with the NHRA media representative, explain your problems at the event, and try to discuss how they might be avoided in the future. Maybe get someone higher up from ProMedia to assist in the discussion. My two cents, for what it's worth.

 

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ahahhahahhah OW3ND.....Yea i heard that those sneaky NHRA guys are on this website spying.......

 

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NHRA

 

Speaking from a photographers point of view I think I can say with absolutely no doubt that the Sport Compact racing series are much more relaxed about photo access than any other motorsports. I have shot CART, INDY, F1, Moto GP, NASCAR, and WSB over the years and photo credentials are really hard to get and highly restricted in these other forms of racing. (its not unusual to have to produce evidence in print of your published work, etc.)

I personally have always been treated very fairly by the NHRA and NDRA at the events. Lets face it, they want to get as much exposure as they can to the sport. If you are genuinely shooting for a media outlet you will get credentials and access to the best positions.
Having said that, I agree that the National Dragster guys can be a pain in the *** at times but they do have certain advantages shooting for the "Official" publication.

I try to maintain a decent relationship with all of the other shooters out there, The biggest problem I see is the multitude of "Photographers" with cell phone camera's getting in the way

Cheers
Chris

 

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You lost the point. The all motor sport compact record was owned by an import last year and then came the weight change. It just so happens we are still on top even with mult million dollar factory sponsored teams like Mopar ect. I am not going to sit around a say its some huge conspiracy by the big money corparations that the NHRA are so close with. It just seems strange.

Look at the rule changes to Pro FWD. Its obvious that the rules were made to take out Rado's car. Even things they were planning on doing for safety reasons(Center drive positon)were outlawed. So people who say the changes were only for saftety or to slow the cars down are lying to themselves.

Rado and Norwood start building a car(withing the legal rules of that time) that is going to make a big step, not only in speed but safety. Mopar, GM, and other billion dollar corparations that are the good ole boys of the NHRA had put big bucks into producing there Pro FWD cars and didnt want that investment to get its *** kicked on the regular.

Money talks, bullshit walks and the NHRA banned Rado's car.

 

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You lost the point. The all motor sport compact record was owned by an import last year and then came the weight change. It just so happens we are still on top even with mult million dollar factory sponsored teams like Mopar ect. I am not going to sit around a say its some huge conspiracy by the big money corparations that the NHRA are so close with. It just seems strange.

Look at the rule changes to Pro FWD. Its obvious that the rules were made to take out Rado's car. Even things they were planning on doing for safety reasons(Center drive positon)were outlawed. So people who say the changes were only for saftety or to slow the cars down are lying to themselves.

Rado and Norwood start building a car(withing the legal rules of that time) that is going to make a big step, not only in speed but safety. Mopar, GM, and other billion dollar corparations that are the good ole boys of the NHRA had put big bucks into producing there Pro FWD cars and didnt want that investment to get its *** kicked on the regular.

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Im assuming your refering to scott mohler's car, and granted that its a great car with a great program, if nhra continues to let bisi run, NO one is catching him anytime soon, and about the PRO FWD part of the post, i TOTALLY agree with you, i do believe that Chris R. is getting black balled, but thats how the world spins and there really is nothing you or i could do...

Chris




Modified by The P.I.M.P at 1:48 PM 3/25/2004

 

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Yes that is a great car and a great program. Then you got lower budgets and smaller crews like Leslie Durst and Bisi owning the record books. Thats why I choose to race Hondas. Its all about doing more with less. But with rule changes purposely set up to rule out a certain car thats not a domestic its going to be hard to keep up.

 

as i figured it out it wasnt the NHRA people that wasnt letting me take some of the shots... it was a certain person that knows the NHRA people well that didnt let me take the shots. Its not NHRA's fault, i apoligize for bashing so soon.. Its a personal issue that one of the guys has, doesnt like me much for some reason.... I was at the starting line and all , but what made me mad was that there is this one big guy that has a cane walking around, and like three times when i was about to take a shot, he told me to move so that his photographer could take the shot... thats what pissed me off.

 

ahahahahha i love it, got caught and now hes retracting his comments