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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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Well, I finished my B18C1 swap into my hatchback and went to the track with my dad, my brother, and a customer's Supra we built.

This is my first FWD car to race so bare with me.


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SRP 9.5:1 pistons (I'm going turbo later on so I decided to drop the compression a bit)
Eagle Rods
ARP headstuds
el cheapo 4-1 header
2.5" exhaust
Fidanza lightweight flywheel
Exedy clutch

It was about 50 degrees outside and I'm in southeast Texas (below sealevel).
I aired my tires (Kumho Ecsta Supra) down to 19psi as well....I was carrying drag radials for the Supra to the track off of my brother's 300ZX, so I had to take out the spare tire, jack, etc. So I guess you could say I was "gutted" in the rear a bit, but no treally.

Here goes...

1st run
Reaction: .7880
60 ft: 2.72
1/8: 10.4 @ 69mph
1/4: 16.01 @ 88mph

2nd run
Reaction: .6699
60 ft: 2.46
1/8: 10.1 @ 70mph
1/4: 15.63 @ 89mph (I actually won this one against a Nissan Titan )

3rd run
Reaction: .6162
60 ft: 2.41
1/8: 10 @ 70mph
1/4: 15.6 @ 89mph (I got romped by a 10 second Camaro SS )

4th and final run
Reaction: .6062
60 ft: 2.43
1/8: 9.99 @ 71mph
1/4: 15.47 @ 90mph


I was hoping for 14's, but oh well. I'm thinking that I could probably clean up my 60 ft a bit and just get used to FWD, but I've decided to piece together a turbo kit with possibly a little bit of nitrous.

I hear that most people run mid 14's with swapped hatchbacks, so I can only guess that the drop in compression affected my power a bit.

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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:27 PM
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9.5:1 motor or not... single cams go faster than that
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Any explanation or reasoning behind that?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:03 PM
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hell today i went 15.1 at 92mph in a bone stock integra gsr.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:06 PM
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What was your 60ft time?


I figured a stock GSR would be faster than mine because of the compression drop...compression = horsepower/torque, if I'm not mistaken.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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well, that integra has some weight on ya. regardless of factors, that time is not up to par.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoostedJeff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, that integra has some weight on ya. regardless of factors, that time is not up to par.</TD></TR></TABLE> agree .....
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:25 PM
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Just wondering...what should it be running?

And isn't compression power?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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13.9 @ 99mph in a hatch with a stock GSR I/H/E in a full interior DX hatch on street tires. Something isn't right. 9.5 isn't that low to yield such weak mph.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:32 PM
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Its your 60' foot. You just need some practice so keep going to the track and you'll get better.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:33 PM
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Exactly, yours is a stock GSR...as in 10:1 compression (if I remember right).


Compression = power........right?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:35 PM
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Ideally you should be able to 60' in the 2.0-2.1 range on street tires which will definitly improve your times a great deal.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:49 PM
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I'm already looking into either a set of drag slicks or drag radials...and eventually a limited slip.

I realize I'm lacking on power some, but the 60' is what makes the 1/4
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 05:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JKov240 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm already looking into either a set of drag slicks or drag radials...and eventually a limited slip.

I realize I'm lacking on power some, but the 60' is what makes the 1/4 </TD></TR></TABLE>
I wouldnt waste my money on an LSD. What is your launch technique?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:04 PM
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The LSD won't come until later on down the road when I'm reeeeeeally having traction issues.


On my first run I launched it at 2,500rpms, but it bogged bad...resulting in a 16.0.


After that mistake, I revved the motor to about 3.5K, and slipped the clutch, but no matter what I did had wheel hop pretty bad.


Any advice?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:07 PM
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You are still launching too low. Try revving it a bit higher and really ride the clutch out so the tires are just squeeling through first. Spinning &gt; bogging.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:21 PM
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I get what you're saying...we're having that problem with the Supra.


If you launch too high you spin, if you launch too low you bog.


13.2 @ 114 was the best we could do...it needs some new suspension
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 03:46 AM
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Your times seems pretty low though.
Any tuning? What exhaust?
I have a build LS/VTEC for boost(compression in the 9's) in an '92 hatch
Stock cast B16a1 header(made it a bit longer to fit)
stock GSR head
GSR IM(butterflies removed)
3" exhaust
short ram home made intake
tuned with crome

I started it up did a quick street tuned to the track(that was the brake-in)

60ft: 2.512
1/8 time: 9.337
1/8 speed: 77 mph
1/4 time: 14.298
1/4 speed: 96 mph

2 weeks later after changing the intake piping to a larger diameter and retuned it(the first tune wasn't 100% it was a quicky just to have it running)

60ft: 2.262
1/8 time: 9.035
1/8 speed: 78 mph
1/4 time: 14.003
1/4 speed: 98 mph

I launched at 5K.

Launched it higher
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 04:12 AM
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No tuning done at all.


I got my exhaust from nopi, I'm on a striiiiiict college budget and they had this brand that goes by "number 1" (think of it as a replica of the higher end stuff), so I got a header and a stainless steel 2.5" exhaust.
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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:59 AM
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We've tried scanning the ECU, but every time it just freezes the scanner, so it might be an ECU issue.

We're also going to take a look at the stock cat to see if there are any restrictions with that.

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