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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:50 PM
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rods- Crower billet(not the econo)

the rod is now in an "s" shape, what could cause this to happen?

the block is fine, can still see cross hatch on the cyl's
the piston from the cyl with the bent rod is slightly messed up on the top side
bearings are also in great condition. the car is on alcohol. and made over 800hp to the wheels. revlimit- 10,000.

any ideas what would cause this?


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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:51 PM
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is the bearing fucked up?
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">rods- Crower billet(not the econo)

the rod is now in an "s" shape, what could cause this to happen?

the block is fine, can still see cross hatch on the cyl's
the piston from the cyl with the best rod is slightly messed up on the top side
bearings are also in great condition. the car is on alcohol. and made over 800hp to the wheels. revlimit- 10,000.

any ideas what would cause this? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hydrolocked it....
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:06 PM
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Ive broke Crower rods before. I think they are junk after about 600hp....imho

Manley, or Pauter seem to be the ticket
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hydrolocked it....</TD></TR></TABLE>

onlything i can think of also
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SUPERNATURAL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is the bearing fucked up?</TD></TR></TABLE>

bearings and wristpin bushings are fine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hydrolocked it....</TD></TR></TABLE>

please explain more
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:52 PM
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too much fuel, or bad headgasket causing the Hydraulic effect
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:53 PM
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You make 800whp and rev to 10k and dont know what hydrolocking a motor is?
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">too much fuel, or bad headgasket causing the Hydraulic effect</TD></TR></TABLE>

tooo much fuel would mean we had a shitty a/f right or??? because everything checked out on the dyno.

also did compression and leakdown about 2 weeks ago. 180 across the board, and 1-2 % leakdown on each cyl.

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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 04:59 PM
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could be it just loaded up at the track differently from the dyno and hydrolocked enough to bend the rod.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by GTI2lo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">could be it just loaded up at the track differently from the dyno and hydrolocked enough to bend the rod.</TD></TR></TABLE>

is possible to do it during a burnout ?? cause that is when it happend
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:06 PM
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did any of the sleeves sink?......hydrolocked! tooooo much compression.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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maybe an injector got stuck open.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doughboy247 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">did any of the sleeves sink?......hydrolocked! tooooo much compression.</TD></TR></TABLE>

no.
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:12 PM
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does anyone know how to upload video's to the computer, cause i dont. i have the video of the burnout and when the incident happend.

we did the burnout, than came back down to an idle, than the car shut off, after idling for a few seconds
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 05:29 PM
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Get different rods, your making too much power for the Crowers!!!!
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 07:31 PM
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Damn Dave, you've been around here long enough to know better than to use Crower rods...
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 07:40 PM
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**** didn't just bend for no reason...
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 07:50 PM
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Yeah, but at the power level and rpm i bet you they were all stretched a bit. Not saying this is directly related to the rod itself, though it could be. He just knows better than using those...
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 08:27 PM
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theres definately a problem...fix the problem, don't just throw money at it...or it will happen again...
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Old Jun 28, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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i dunno, we have always had good luck w/crowers.

sounds like some hydrolocking going on to me, especially with the berings being in good shape

measure the thickness of the bering 1/2's. if the top 1/2 is crushed then you have your answer..
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 01:32 AM
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Could severe preignition have cause it? at 800 hp levels of combustion pressure i wouldn't doubt its enough to "s" the rod.
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 04:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Damn Dave, you've been around here long enough to know better than to use Crower rods...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I told him that you said crower is junk for high hp cars.


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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 04:32 AM
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I have one question for you guys, why is it that when people are in the pits in their cars and the motor has no load, people insist on revving the **** out of their cars. I have seen more than a few cars rev like mad in the pits, and stretch ****, than go out on the track and blow up. I'm just not getting it
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Old Jun 29, 2005 | 04:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDogg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i dunno, we have always had good luck w/crowers.

sounds like some hydrolocking going on to me, especially with the berings being in good shape

measure the thickness of the bering 1/2's. if the top 1/2 is crushed then you have your answer..</TD></TR></TABLE>

ok, we will look into that.


Tony,. yea we've heard all the "horror" stories about crower. but its all we had when the engine went together. we might try out a set of pauters. dunno yet.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Suprdave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">theres definately a problem...fix the problem, don't just throw money at it...or it will happen again...</TD></TR></TABLE>

tell me what you think the problem was. obviosly hydrolock, but how?? it couldnt have been coolant, how could coolant get into cyl's with 40 psi of boost? and our oil looked pretty good too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Clayton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have one question for you guys, why is it that when people are in the pits in their cars and the motor has no load, people insist on revving the **** out of their cars. I have seen more than a few cars rev like mad in the pits, and stretch ****, than go out on the track and blow up. I'm just not getting it</TD></TR></TABLE>

sorry, but you must be mistaken us for someone else. we are from philly. and there is no reason to reve the car like an **** in the pits.

anyone think we should send the injectors out to get them tested and cleaned??
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