which would you guys prefer and what is they going rate for each swap. i know the itr motor goes for around 5500.00. the reason i want to know is because i debating on which one to go with. all of my friends argu back in forth and i just wanted your input. thanks

 

id rather have an ITR...better yet a 2 liter type r. stock b20 is nothing compared to a stock itr

 

a GSR with b16a head

If you're serious into building this engine you will do a port job, new valvetrain, new cams, use the GSR block and you can run some p30-PCT pistons (depending on what comp you want) Or you can get some aftermarkets with aftermarket rods. I wouldnt want to buy a ITR motor just to remove/replace everything ''type r'' except the ITR crank.... thats just me though

 

I agree... I'm not thrilled about frankenstein engines. They're more for people who can't afford to build a GSR or Type-R.

 

yea, i slaughter stock itr's, cant compare em

 

For street racing I'd rather have the torque of the b20. For track, definetly itr. Why not do b20 block w/ b16a head or b18c head? Best of both worlds.

 

Build yourself a nice B20/VTEC motor and you will be fast and happy.

 

Oh man you better delete that post cause you's about to get izowned!


Man I'm not even going to start there..

A reliable B20/VTEC motor will not be cheaper than a stock R motor, and no way be as reliable(dont get me wrong, it could be reliable)

So for 4800 bucks you can get a GSR to beat a Type R motor? If you run N20 yea.

Man let the other guys handle you I'm tired lol.

 

Stock vs. Stock, ITR is way better.

What are your plans / goals for the car??

 

gimmie the money it costs to buy a type r, and I GARUNTEE i will build a reliable b20vtec for at least 1k less

mike

 

mostly a daily driver but it will have my nitrous setup on it.

 

ITR motor are only good if your not doing any internals..

go with a build motor, B20vtec, GSR...etc...it will be alot faster..!!

 

i'm not looking much for building a motor. to much money for everyday driver
but looks like i'll be sticking with the itr swap.
i know tom likes the itr swap

 

good luck with ur swap!!

4 lIfe!

 

Good choice! A type-R engine will outperform a non-built b20/vtec in HP and reliability anyway.

 

For Reliability sake, I would build a JDM ITR Bottom End...Bone Stock.

B16a Head with a fuckload of portwork...Toda Bs, and a nice SMS Header, Hondata and goto town. Basically keep stockish rev-limit and your good to go. Would have a fun-*** car.

Suprdave

 

50+k mi and i walk all over itrs thank you, come again

 

type r 2.1L block thats what i want but i would pick a typeR over a b20 anyday

 

gsr block
rs sleeves
ls crank
Pauter rods
high cr pistons
big cams (jun3 will do, or skunk2 stage 2 is fine)
good ecu
maybe itb's......prolly not though
A GOOD header...
440 injectors


that setup right there will outperform either a b20/vtec or a type r block. Stocvk vs. stock a r motor will always win...and be way more reliable. I saw a post above that said something about the cost of a reliable motor. hows this look?

Ls block-450
ctr slugs-330
arp rods bolts and head bolts-200
BRAND NEW ITR HEAD WITH CAMS-1300
itr manifold-250
dc jdm 4-1 header-320
tranny-700
hondata-240


that setup right there will make over 200 whp for sure..........sound good to you? way cheaper too

 

What kind of setup? Frankly for a built B20 those numbers aren't very impressive. What times do you pull?

Any properly built setup will be reliable and with more displacement the B20 will make more power, but from what I have seen to do a proper B20 setup requires a good bit of cash.

 

who said it was built? i quoted it saying a NON built setup wont perform....pretty nifty what 99% OEM parts will do huh?

 

yea and after hes down walking over them, i get to walk over the leftovers with my superduper slow b16!

 

blah, i deleted the original post,

The thread started said he wants to run NAWZZ, thats beyond me... blah....




[Modified by yut loc baat, 7:54 AM 4/5/2003]

 

i would have to go with an itr motor. don't get me wrong the b20 vtec can be reliable if built correct and put out great numbers. the b20 vtec can not take the abuse like itr motor the b20 vtec can not handle 8200-8500 revs all the time.

 

Either your joking or your a fucken moron!!!!

to the others! ok homie straight up what you going to use it for? track, drag, everyday type of driving? what?

people who get itr's want reliability ok that's cool but you'll never be fast!!! except if you build that itr!

for people who want a fass *** nutz car! will take just a block that only cost 200 bucks! and put all the nice rods, bearing and crank techniques into it! and then move on to a head! you can port it with valvetrain! get cams! and wow something that can outperforma itr head depending on who ports it!

itr motors are just nice that's it I have seen every set up imaginable and the fully built 1.8 with 210 whp will still lose due to torque!

2.0 liters are badd *** but if your going to race it get ready to pay! stick to a 1.8 if you want reliability but if you want to make 235 whp and 155 pounds of torque!!!!! build a 2.0 or up!

tell any 1.8 in the same car as a 2.0 liter 2 race and it'll be sure to back down!!! I dont care gears in both and who is driving! 2.0 for all out drag racing will win!

my 2 cents!!!!!