okay im in the process of getting the viper 791xv but i saw a post on here a few months ago saying something about how its not gonna work if u have a manual car. Is this true? If yes does viper have another alarm out there which has everything the same as the 791xv but for a manual car?

 

i believe u can install this alarm for a 5spd if u don't install the remote start? If that's so will it affect any other functions besides the remote start becuase i don't really care about that anyways just as long as everything else still works and perform like it should.

 

they used to make a 690vx which was an 2-way alarm w/remote start...

but yes you can use the 791vx w/o the remote starter connected....

 

Yo, i bought the 791xv and im in the process of installing it.. This DOES work with manual cars... its just recommended from the factory not to install it on a manual car... even tho it wont hurt the car. The problem is, if u use the remote start when the car in in gear, it will start the car, cause it to stall and jump out of its spot, even with the e-brake up. Anyways, if u arent retarded and dont try to start it with the remote when its in gear, then u will be fine.. Aight?

 

you are retarded if you (or anyone) installs this alarm on a manual, it has no provisions for it, and is unsafe, there is someone on this site that was seriously injured because someone installed one and someone else accidently remote started it, crushing his legs....

 

so bottom line is it can work just dont install the remote start?

 

i have the 791 on a manual transmission. again, dont be a dumbass and you'll be fine. if you let someone else take the car for some reason beyond my belief, the viper 791 has a toggle switch that enables or diables the remote start section of the alarm system. just switch it off and dont tell the driver (valet) where it is. other then that, dont leave your car in gear... period.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by keemosaki &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i have the 791 on a manual transmission. again, dont be a dumbass and you'll be fine. if you let someone else take the car for some reason beyond my belief, the viper 791 has a toggle switch that enables or diables the remote start section of the alarm system. just switch it off and dont tell the driver (valet) where it is. other then that, dont leave your car in gear... period.</TD></TR></TABLE>If you don't want remote start, why not get an alarm without it, that said, if you already have the 791, just wire the alarm part, it can't hurt anything, just wire everything except the starter, that way you could still use the stop and go, or turbo cool down. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by foz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you are retarded if you (or anyone) installs this alarm on a manual, it has no provisions for it, and is unsafe, there is someone on this site that was seriously injured because someone installed one and someone else accidently remote started it, crushing his legs....

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you would have to be an idiot to "accidently" remote start a car with a manual that u left in gear when somone is standing in front of it. An idiot would leave it in gear and attempt a start

 

a friend of mine had one installed on his 4runner, his mom moved the car the night before, left it in gear... and then his girl friend remote started in the morning, and it drove into the driver/passenger doors of his parents fairly new BMW.....


it was an accident, I can't speak for the guy whose legs got crunched, he is a honda-tech member and has chimed in on these discussions before... I don't know his full story....

accidents happen, why increase the odds...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by foz &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">a friend of mine had one installed on his 4runner, his mom moved the car the night before, left it in gear... and then his girl friend remote started in the morning, and it drove into the driver/passenger doors of his parents fairly new BMW.....


it was an accident, I can't speak for the guy whose legs got crunched, he is a honda-tech member and has chimed in on these discussions before... I don't know his full story....

accidents happen, why increase the odds...</TD></TR></TABLE>That is how it happens, nobody is being stupid, [unless you count putting a auto. remote start into a standard] someone moves the car, you or someone else trys to remote start it and, oops, I never leave my teg in gear, I always set the E-brake, but if my sis. or nef. move it, [ no matter how many times I tell them] they leave it in gear and don't set the brake, and more then a few times I have jumped in stepped on the clutch, started it and popped the clutch, [ do you know that ugly sound BANG]

The only safe thing to do is install a remote start for a standard in a standard, otherwise it's not, if something will happen, it's , when. 94

 

my brother has the same alarm. He needs the turbo timer/remote start feature because his car is turbo. I accidentally put his in gear once and he was pissed. Ever since then i didn't. And now we never borrow each other's car. It's no wonder alarm shops disclaim any liability and have you sign your name prior to install.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiR-ed8 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">my brother has the same alarm. He needs the turbo timer/remote start feature because his car is turbo. I accidentally put his in gear once and he was pissed. Ever since then i didn't. And now we never borrow each other's car. It's no wonder alarm shops disclaim any liability and have you sign your name prior to install.</TD></TR></TABLE>At our shop we will NOT install auto only remote starts into a standerd, up here in BC our gov. car insurance, ICBC, will not pay out for damage done because of an auto remote start installed into a manual and if someone got hurt who do you think that person would sue, the poor slob who can't afford the proper remote start or the big chain store who installed it 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">At our shop we will NOT install auto only remote starts into a standerd, up here in BC our gov. car insurance, ICBC, will not pay out for damage done because of an auto remote start installed into a manual and if someone got hurt who do you think that person would sue, the poor slob who can't afford the proper remote start or the big chain store who installed it 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well because the person who wanted the remote start installed and signed a piece of paper disclaiming the shop any sort of liability, one would think that he would be responsible. *shrugs*

I do understand what you're saying though. I've not heard or seen cases where shops got sued because of it. I'd have to research that.

 

As FOZ stated..I am they guy who was run over by a f-body with a remote
start... It was an accident. We had no idea that it was on the car!!!
Yes accidents can and will happen. I personally know how to install an auto start
on a manual tranny car but wont do it because of the risks. I got a few
bones broke and a few days in the hospital. My case was settled out of court.
This was a very avoidable incident. There are systems that are designed for
manual tranny cars.

Just ask yourself a few questions?

a. Do I have an extra$10 million laying around to cover any claims
or offer as a settlement for my negligence?
b. I am flawless I never forget to do what I need to do?
c. I am willing to give up a % of my income for the rest of my life to
cover any claims because of my negligence.?

If you can say yes to any of these then go ahead. You seem to have thought
this out thouroughly.

c.

 

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Well because the person who wanted the remote start installed and signed a piece of paper disclaiming the shop any sort of liability, one would think that he would be responsible. *shrugs*

I do understand what you're saying though. I've not heard or seen cases where shops got sued because of it. I'd have to research that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well in my case the shop that did the work went bankrupt ( go figure) My shop
orginally did the alarm on his car..the 2nd chnl output was for the hatch release.. of course the other shop gave him a remote start. The kid had done damage to
the garage and other family vehicles. His dad told him to remove the device
from the car..he had the shop wire a simple on off toggle switch.

So basically is it really woth it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by audioroach &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well in my case the shop that did the work went bankrupt ( go figure) My shop
orginally did the alarm on his car..the 2nd chnl output was for the hatch release.. of course the other shop gave him a remote start. The kid had done damage to
the garage and other family vehicles. His dad told him to remove the device
from the car..he had the shop wire a simple on off toggle switch.

So basically is it really woth it?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Damn that sucks about your leg bro. It's really not necessary as my car isn't turbo to begin with. After all, these remote start alarms are initially for auto trannys. I just wanted some convenience that's all.

Curious though, is it true that if you leave the car in gear and you remote start it, everything's going to be screwed? Hence you have to go back to the alarm shop to get everything wired again?

 

Get a neutral safety switch and you can remote start that manual I can get you one from Peripheral.

 

ok mother *******.

viper doesn't make a alarm for manual tranny autostart on manual for auto only.

only way to go is CompuStar they have a procedure I am not going to explain you *******. but it works

it can be done with viper alarm or any alarm my friend had one actually I told him to start the car it was in gear he had door Popper in 89 the cars ebrake wasn't good the car ran hit a fence I nearly got killed running after the car trying to stop it.

I sugguest if you wanna kill somone you do it on an alarm not equiped with the compustar style preocedure.

 

you've been very helpful

 

It is possible to get viper 791xv installed on a manual car, and have the remote start working. In cali its illegal for a dealer to install it on a manual car but if you happen to know somebody that can install it they jus have to bypass the clutch and then remote start will work.

 

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